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Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: King (2.0) on 17 January 2025, 17:14:50
Quote from: Charlie on 16 January 2025, 15:51:40
Already did, but everything's still as it should be--
I'm not sure if this will work, but try copying all the Lunar Shadow files into a fresh copy of Cave Story and see what happens.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Charlie on 16 January 2025, 15:51:40
Already did, but everything's still as it should be--
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: King (2.0) on 16 January 2025, 13:52:59
Quote from: Charlie on 15 January 2025, 17:48:04
Game just closes when you're at any point in control.

Load a game? Closes.
Start a new game? Closes after the cutscene(s).
Check the script for the opening cutscenes to see if there's anything wrong with it.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Charlie on 15 January 2025, 17:48:04
Game just closes when you're at any point in control.

Load a game? Closes.
Start a new game? Closes after the cutscene(s).
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: King (2.0) on 15 January 2025, 17:13:22
Quote from: RKS on 15 January 2025, 16:05:32
… Cibryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll…


… she broke game…
How so?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 15 January 2025, 16:05:32
… Cibryyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll…


… she broke game…
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Charlie on 13 January 2025, 14:04:51
Me seeing a new post by RKS here: huh, probably just her posting something about development from the past.

Me seeing a new post by King here: okay now I'm curious--

Me seeing this post:
Quote from: RKS on 13 January 2025, 04:51:51
… sorted maps… was quite a lengthy mission…

… version 5… might come about…

… more maps… will be added…
WHAT THE ABSOLUTE FUDGE--
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: King (2.0) on 13 January 2025, 13:40:54
Quote from: RKS on 13 January 2025, 04:51:51
… sorted maps… was quite a lengthy mission…

… version 5… might come about…

… more maps… will be added…
Oh yeah, I just remembered that I had two combined maps I submitted to the gallery ages but never posted here in this thread.

(https://lunarshadowcs.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/1/48-061123224353.png)

(https://lunarshadowcs.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/1/48-310324195903.png)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 13 January 2025, 04:51:51
… sorted maps… was quite a lengthy mission…

… version 5… might come about…

… more maps… will be added…
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 26 October 2023, 22:30:39
… long part… left of LS Castle Entrance… is bridge… so fitting…

… area before Entrance… naming it either Castle Gate or Malice Bridge…

… unless XSP notes have other names…
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: King (2.0) on 26 October 2023, 19:01:28
So old thread is old but is more than just a memory. So I decided to take the various maps I had put onto the Lunar Shadow Wiki and put them together:
(http://lunarshadowcs.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/1/48-091023185525.png)
As you can guess, it's unfinished and I'm still not sure if I've connected the maps correctly. Also the long section left of the Entrance represents the bad ending you can get at the start of the game.

(http://lunarshadowcs.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/1/48-261023185933.png)
Then I went back to this thread, made use of the colour coded maps Cibryll (aka Ariana/Yui Seymour) created for this thread and updated the map.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 09 May 2016, 13:06:24
Quote from: Rita on 08 May 2016, 12:48:06
No such map :P

There is, however, no name for her within Reservoir TR.


I have begun work on the sprites of two sisters. They are blonde. They have a Thunder affinity. The one is half-asleep and the other is awake. One speaks like a Valley Girl (trope), the other uses archaic terms like "thou" and "thee" and "thy" and "thine" and "hast" and "hath".
Thanks.

I uses archaic terms; I'll need help with that.
N uses valley girl speak (like, totally whatever); that, I'll probably have to try and figure out for myself.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Rita on 08 May 2016, 12:48:06
No such map :P

There is, however, no name for her within Reservoir TR.


I have begun work on the sprites of two sisters. They are blonde. They have a Thunder affinity. The one is half-asleep and the other is awake. One speaks like a Valley Girl (trope), the other uses archaic terms like "thou" and "thee" and "thy" and "thine" and "hast" and "hath".
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 16 April 2016, 07:25:51
Right. Could someone with Cave Editor or Booster's Lab please check Reservoir RR to see if I haven't named the mermaid yet?

(Her name will become Aziza, but if people like her current name enough... plan B! Whatever that is.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 28 December 2015, 22:31:03
Yes. Enough to (currently) survive one death trap.


I found issues with the password thing in Servant Quarters RR (beta testers know what I mean).
I've had to change those entirely. (Konami code is okay, but the other two… aren't. :-/ )


EDIT:
There might be a miscalculation somewhere, though; I ended up with 195 max Acidic Bubble mana instead of 200.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 28 December 2015, 22:27:55
!!150 HP!!
O_O
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 28 December 2015, 16:45:39
Double-posting because those bugs are losing. :P

Anyway, in version 4a, you'll be able to get a maximum of 150 HP (unless I slipped up), 200 mana for the Acidic Bubble spell (unless I made a mess of things), and 50 ammo for Arcadia (if I didn't ruin it) OR, under a very specific condition, infinite ammo.

All the outfits can be obtained, a spoilery NPC has been added to several cutscenes (they prefer to be silent though), a mermaid is finally important-ish (I kept forgetting about her until recently), a bad ending has been added (ha ha ha ha ha), and the Confusion Zone is confirmed to be in version 5.

Also several bugs have been fixed unless I failed at that. :))



(My cheerfulness is a façade by the way. I worry a lot about Lily and others.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 27 December 2015, 21:48:49
Quote from: Ariana on 16 December 2015, 19:11:21
Kim, can I make a boss rush version after this mod is completely finished?

(In other words, beat the bosses as quickly as you can. Speedrun.)



Should probably be okay for a first mod attempt, right?
If you want to.

Though, I didn't expect that question from you. :o
Right! 105 bugs (probably less) to fix.
This should be fun.

FITE ME BUGS
I'M NOT SCARED OF YA

* mass fite-ing ensues *



I'll start off with the easy-to-fix bugs, of course. Azehr is going to be the most difficult one, given that he's linked to at least ten bugs. (If not more.)

The next release should be a public one, version 4a. Hopefully I can finish it before 16 January (Lunar Shadow's first birthday), but who knows.


EDIT (27/12/2015 22:18)
I've fixed a few bugs now, including Life Capsule bugs in 3-HP mode and some cutscene-related issues.
Right now, I'm working on the final map's cutscene, but for that, a spoilery character will need facepics which I'm working on.

Who is that character? That mysterious character who is a spoilery one?

…

I want you guys to guess.
Beta Testers aren't permitted to guess, since they already know :P
(Assuming, of course, they beat the Myst Zone in the most recent Beta and met the character.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 20 December 2015, 11:30:47
Quote from: Serena on 11 November 2015, 15:41:31
From what I can tell, it seems to be so with the first DS game in the Shin Megami Tensei franchise (I had almost all the characters alive, but then I had to forget about one of them and he died). Not sure with the second DS game (though I haven't finished it yet). Or Strange Journey, for that matter (I swear, staying Neutral is harder than I thought).



Anyway

I SEE CASTLEVANIA REFERENCES (in the screenshots)
Charlotte will be most pleased :P
* squee *


… wait, I'm not Charlotte! D:
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Yui on 16 December 2015, 19:11:21
Kim, can I make a boss rush version after this mod is completely finished?

(In other words, beat the bosses as quickly as you can. Speedrun.)



Should probably be okay for a first mod attempt, right?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 21 November 2015, 09:17:10
Quote from: Dianke on 20 November 2015, 22:43:50
Your sister has blue hair? :o


No. Although it would be cool :P
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 20 November 2015, 22:43:50
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 23 August 2015, 23:12:42
Also, working on the boss of the Sea Zone. It's going to be LEGEN-- wait for it-- DARY. LEGENDARY.
Did you make a How I Met Your Mother reference on the forums but not the mod?

Quote from: alfasketer on 24 August 2015, 08:46:01
1. Hey that looks like my Insane sister *looks behind and sees torn off pillows flying in the hallway.*
Your sister has blue hair? :o

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 05 November 2015, 17:17:44
New things to look forward to:
- more enemies that appear when some bosses are beaten
- a new music room (in the Entrance)
- you can save an important female NPC (no, not Valkyrie, at the moment; that's in the Confusion Zone that has yet to be finished)
- some more info on Azehr (not much)
- a new puzzle at the Top Floor (near the final bosses; it's just like the one in the Central Tower area where you read stuff to open the way)
- no Missile Launcher obtaining bugs (so you can't exploit a bug to obtain the Missile Launcher now :P )
1. why ;-;
2. That's cool :)
3. Is it Alexis? It's totally her, isn't it?
4. well, it's better than nothing
5. why ;-;
6. wat

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 09 November 2015, 09:49:52
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WAT

Loads and loads of references, huh? So many shout-outs. :o

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 09 November 2015, 09:49:52
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So no going above the castle, huh?

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 09 November 2015, 09:49:52
Oh, and there's a new boss in Top Floor CZ. >:3
Who? What?

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 09 November 2015, 09:49:52
EDIT 2:
The final end cutscene (after you leave the castle) can be accessed now, though I'm still working on it.
So far, three variations of that cutscene exists.
* hype train comes along and catches fire due to mass hype hysteria *

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 09 November 2015, 09:49:52
Still a few more to fix, but the Myst Zone now has bosses. There's also the Nikumaru Counter.
What does the Nikumaru Counter do in Lunar Shadow?

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 10 November 2015, 10:45:48
Also, there's a new ally in the mod, one who is saved in the Myst Zone. Their sprites have yet to be done, but it should be easy. ;)

In addition, I'm considering having 3-HP mode having a special treasure: Arcanum Infinity. (It's just like the name says.)
Though, it would be even MORE overpowered at level 3 (seriously infinite ammo and level 3 Arcanum).
Ilina, isn't it?

Also DO IT PLEASE

Quote from: AuroraDash on 12 November 2015, 03:23:00
The screenshots look great :3 Looking forward to the finished game!
Asami. :3

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 16 November 2015, 12:51:33
wat
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Hinata on 13 November 2015, 01:04:41
The screenshots taste like that which is known as onions.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: AuroraDash on 12 November 2015, 03:23:00
The screenshots look great :3 Looking forward to the finished game!
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 11 November 2015, 15:41:31
From what I can tell, it seems to be so with the first DS game in the Shin Megami Tensei franchise (I had almost all the characters alive, but then I had to forget about one of them and he died). Not sure with the second DS game (though I haven't finished it yet). Or Strange Journey, for that matter (I swear, staying Neutral is harder than I thought).



Anyway

I SEE CASTLEVANIA REFERENCES (in the screenshots)
Charlotte will be most pleased :P
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 11 November 2015, 14:59:53
Quote from: Lily on 11 November 2015, 13:41:57
Don't the hardest routes of Shin Megami Tensei lead to the best endings?
I personally don't know.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Aimee on 11 November 2015, 13:41:57
Don't the hardest routes of Shin Megami Tensei lead to the best endings?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 11 November 2015, 08:12:26
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 10 November 2015, 10:45:48

Arcanum has additional ammo that can be obtained, but it has limits.
Arcanum starts at 30 ammo, which is justified due to how overpowered it can be at level 3.
The maximum ammo available is going to be 50, and will be obtainable in the treasury in the Entrance area.

Well, that splendid.( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 10 November 2015, 10:45:48

The Acidic Bubble also has additional mana that can be obtained.
It starts at 20 (if you get it from Reservoir B) or 15 (if you get it from Reservoir Y) mana.
Other chests that increase maximum mana for it are locked if you don't have the spell yet.
There's a +30 increase in the Entrance treasury, and a +15 increase in the East Tower area.
Thus, it currently has the maximum mana total of 80.

♪ I wish I could be, as cool as you.♪
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 10 November 2015, 10:45:48

Also, there's a new ally in the mod, one who is saved in the Myst Zone. Their sprites have yet to be done, but it should be easy. ;)



I wonder who will it be.


Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 10 November 2015, 10:45:48
In addition, I'm considering having 3-HP mode having a special treasure: Arcanum Infinity. (It's just like the name says.)Though, it would be even MORE overpowered at level 3 (seriously infinite ammo and level 3 Arcanum).



Thank god. I hate when the hard mode gives you the "better" ending. That is way more reasonable reward, making it easier for you. ALL HAIL KIM THE FIRST
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 10 November 2015, 10:45:48
So, I figured, may as well add even more info to the castle's past and whatnot.
Some of this info can only be uncovered if a certain person is saved from demise.

I'm still adding the Warp Doors and making them work, of course.
This should be easy enough to do. :)

There's also a few more Life Capsules added: two in the East Tower, one in the Confusion Zone, and currently, that's it. I have yet to add more.
A total of +15 max HP has been added, so currently the maximum HP is around 75 (I want to make it at least 100, to be honest).
When I'm done with that, I'll make sure that 3-HP mode does not have the Life Capsules appear.

Arcanum has additional ammo that can be obtained, but it has limits.
Arcanum starts at 30 ammo, which is justified due to how overpowered it can be at level 3.
The maximum ammo available is going to be 50, and will be obtainable in the treasury in the Entrance area.

The Acidic Bubble also has additional mana that can be obtained.
It starts at 20 (if you get it from Reservoir B) or 15 (if you get it from Reservoir Y) mana.
Other chests that increase maximum mana for it are locked if you don't have the spell yet.
There's a +30 increase in the Entrance treasury, and a +15 increase in the East Tower area.
Thus, it currently has the maximum mana total of 80.

Also, there's a new ally in the mod, one who is saved in the Myst Zone. Their sprites have yet to be done, but it should be easy. ;)

In addition, I'm considering having 3-HP mode having a special treasure: Arcanum Infinity. (It's just like the name says.)
Though, it would be even MORE overpowered at level 3 (seriously infinite ammo and level 3 Arcanum).
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 10 November 2015, 06:56:49
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 09 November 2015, 21:45:56
* gives you cookies that Dianke had baked *

That should suffice for the moment; until then, I'll be off working~

(Either on the mod or on the CS Modding Wiki, depending on stuff.)
(http://orig02.deviantart.net/c816/f/2012/164/8/d/young_neil_by_dianachulavisa-d53cudv.png)


T-Thank you!
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 09 November 2015, 21:45:56
* gives you cookies that Dianke had baked *

That should suffice for the moment; until then, I'll be off working~

(Either on the mod or on the CS Modding Wiki, depending on stuff.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 09 November 2015, 20:43:10
Me want more O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O_O
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 09 November 2015, 09:49:52
You guys want screenshots, right? You guys really want screenshots? TAKE THIS!

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)

Thus ends the post of screenshots :3

After I fix the last remaining bugs of the current version, there might be a beta release for those who are Beta Testers.
At this point, it's a 50% chance.


EDIT:
Currently, work is going okay~
So after the final boss is beaten, the entire castle starts to fall apart, right?
I'm making sure that all the maps, including those you can't access without cheating (after beating the final boss) will have quakes.
(Progress on that: ~100%.)

Oh, and there's a new boss in Top Floor CZ. >:3

EDIT 2:
The final end cutscene (after you leave the castle) can be accessed now, though I'm still working on it.
So far, three variations of that cutscene exists.

Also, warp doors will be blocked off if the final boss is beaten. So no "2-minute speedruns", I guess.

EDIT 3:
Just a few more bugs to fix ;D
Then, I'll make a back-up of the mod and begin work on the Confusion Zone. (Oh, and the Myst Zone bosses. Almost forgot about them.)

EDIT 4:
Still a few more to fix, but the Myst Zone now has bosses. There's also the Nikumaru Counter.

So, current things to do:
- fix Warp Doors that don't work
- fix other bugs, when possible
- back-up mod after fixing as many bugs possible
- work on Confusion Zone
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 09 November 2015, 00:00:55
The dialogue against the final boss is extended… if you die to him once, though, it will be super short. (Hopefully.)


Plus the final boss has one new form (not in the beta releases yet).
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 05 November 2015, 17:17:44
Bugs being fixed.

New things to look forward to:
- more enemies that appear when some bosses are beaten
- a new music room (in the Entrance)
- you can save an important female NPC (no, not Valkyrie, at the moment; that's in the Confusion Zone that has yet to be finished)
- (hopefully) less chronological paradox failures
- some more info on Azehr (not much)
- a new puzzle at the Top Floor (near the final bosses; it's just like the one in the Central Tower area where you read stuff to open the way)
- no Missile Launcher obtaining bugs (so you can't exploit a bug to obtain the Missile Launcher now :P )
- bugs that are fixed
- bugs that slipped in or have yet to be fixed

And more, probably!
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Hinata on 03 November 2015, 18:27:37
The one that is known as Rita tends to be distracted by music easily, is it not so?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Rita on 03 November 2015, 15:03:52
So you can actually make any mod or even vanilla Cave Story mutable? :o

Well, drums and sound effects, I don't mind, so this is excellent news for myself. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 01 November 2015, 19:05:39
Not really.

See The Cutting Room Floor's page on Cave Story (https://tcrf.net/Cave_Story), under "Unused Menus". ;)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Rita on 01 November 2015, 17:45:13
Wait

But don't you need to ASM hack to re-enable a Mute menu that was never there?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 01 November 2015, 16:28:27
Right. With my computer working again, the very first thing I did was… re-enable the Mute menu. :P

Quote from: Lunaris on 24 August 2015, 15:37:42
6. So is Cheriza and Kyouki Ataerareta Niku one and the same, or…?
Yes.

Quote from: Charlotte on 24 August 2015, 19:29:11
I've an idea: speedrun times being changed.

After the castle master's been beaten, add a timer and have it count upwards; the fastest time change the title song.
That'd require ASM hacking, which I'm horrible at.
I'll ask around when the time comes, though.

Quote from: Charlotte on 24 August 2015, 19:29:11
ASM hacking will be required though since I doubt one can escape the castle in like six minutes and the songs to play might need to be different?
Exactly.

Quote from: Charlotte on 24 August 2015, 19:29:11
Also, the top five times get to choose the top five weapons for Lunar Shadow Zero (though video times only).

Perhaps make the Confusion Zone route the fastest one?
… not sure how I feel about that, but the Confusion Zone route will be canon.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Charlotte on 24 August 2015, 19:29:11
I've an idea: speedrun times being changed.

After the castle master's been beaten, add a timer and have it count upwards; the fastest time change the title song.

ASM hacking will be required though since I doubt one can escape the castle in like six minutes and the songs to play might need to be different?

Also, the top five times get to choose the top five weapons for Lunar Shadow Zero (though video times only).

Perhaps make the Confusion Zone route the fastest one?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 24 August 2015, 15:37:42
1. "Welcome"? Sounds like Ballos right there.
2. Wow, guess sasquatches are different in other galaxies or something :P
 - Why not add a gale force there to prevent the player from standing up top? >;3
3. Can't wait for when items are added there.
4. Why is Serenity unable to use it?
5. I guess that it also confirms that fan art of alfa?
6. So is Cheriza and Kyouki Ataerareta Niku one and the same, or…?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 24 August 2015, 08:46:01
1. Hey that looks like my Insane sister *looks behind and sees torn off pillows flying in the hallway.* PS I don't have a dog neither a cat.
2. Well, just remove it. And a sasquatch. :o
3. Rewards. YAAAAAAAAAAAY.
4. Well, it made it. I guess you'll turn it to Araia for a large life capsule.
5. Yeah, I allready knew that, remember when I needed the info for "The Gathering". :D :P

And surprises? Oh boy, Christmas DID came early. :D :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 24 August 2015, 04:17:29
ALRIGHT EVERYBODY LISTEN UP

I've got more screenshots :3

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ALSO

Beta Testers will receive a surprise :3
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 24 August 2015, 01:34:16
Quote from: Shane on 24 August 2015, 00:51:30
Thank goodness.
Wait what

Two Ironhead-like bosses? D:
Yes. Micren and one Myst Zone boss.

Quote from: Shane on 24 August 2015, 00:51:30
That's an interesting enemy set. :o
Thanks :3
They only appear after visiting Ignis's place.


Quote from: Shane on 24 August 2015, 00:51:30
… will there be dragons? Aside from the ghost ones, I mean.
Dunno.


ALSO

Kyouki Ataerareta Niku. That's the boss's name. It's Google Translate Japanese for "Madness Given Flesh".
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 24 August 2015, 00:51:30
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 24 August 2015, 00:45:06
Nope, Ironhead AI boss is used only twice.

Both will use AIs not used before in the mod. One is going to be super easy (just shoot a few times). The second one is going to be much tougher in comparison.
Thank goodness.
Wait what

Two Ironhead-like bosses? D:

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 24 August 2015, 00:45:06
Also, the Sea Zone now has foes. Polish, Critters, Beetles, Crows, and Armadillos. I might add a Bute or two as well; I dunno yet.
That's an interesting enemy set. :o



… will there be dragons? Aside from the ghost ones, I mean.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 24 August 2015, 00:45:06
Nope, Ironhead AI boss is used only twice.

Both will use AIs not used before in the mod. One is going to be super easy (just shoot a few times). The second one is going to be much tougher in comparison.

Also, the Sea Zone now has foes. Polish, Critters, Beetles, Crows, and Armadillos. I might add a Bute or two as well; I dunno yet.



Oh, and by the way - you get two page-toppers in a row because you posted. :P
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 24 August 2015, 00:42:36
'Tis all interesting, though… the Sea Zone boss. I hope it's not Micren or Ironhead or another fish boss.

Also

A third password?



EDIT:
Okay why'd I get two page-toppers in a row
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 23 August 2015, 23:12:42
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No longer can you get stuck in the password room, and I'm being really really nice here :P



Also, working on the boss of the Sea Zone. It's going to be LEGEN-- wait for it-- DARY. LEGENDARY.

… Actually, not; it's just going to be a boring two-phase boss.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 23 August 2015, 02:15:08
Glaciem is one of the Elemental Unknowns, as is Ignis, Aqua, Terra, Aeris, etc. - of course, that only applies to Obscuro Lumen Venenum Aeris, which is unrelated and canned.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 22 August 2015, 19:08:29
Quote from: alfasketer on 22 August 2015, 17:53:14
(http://i.imgur.com/DpgMwbS.jpg)


I don't need to express myself.
This expresses it for me.
Wow wall of text. :)
This is the Wall of Text.
A wall built of text by the ancient ones
from times beyond the past.


Quote from: alfasketer on 22 August 2015, 17:53:14
Now, serious answers:
1: Neat and self-explanatorry
2: That will be quite the exploring I see. :o
3: I belive you surpassed the number of spikes in 1001 Spikes  :-X
4: Ignis, huh. Like Latin for Fire. And she is in Sea Zone... Poor Ignis won't she die down there D: D: D:
5: Switches. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY :D :D
6: This will be a pain. I can tell.
7 and 8: Mooving blocks. Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. I love riding mooving blocks
9: *thinking for a boss suitable for that giant space*
10: OMFG SHE IS ALREADY DYING D: D: D: D:
1. Thanks :3
2. I know. There's a few secret passages, as mentioned previously. >:3
3. I might have to count the amount of spikes in LS, then :o
4. Nope. Kinda like Glaciem being able to stand in a room full of magma. … whoever Glaciem is. :P
5. They're all accessible without secret passages. ^^
6. It is indeed. :3
7 and 8. Unless they deal damage? :P
9. The boss will be rather small. ;)
10. Nope. She's just in uniform. (The castle master is weird; she is the friend of a few other characters in the Myst Zone who are on break.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 22 August 2015, 17:53:14
(http://i.imgur.com/DpgMwbS.jpg)


I don't need to express myself.
This expresses it for me.
Wow wall of text. :)


Now, serious answers:
1: Neat and self-explanatorry
2: That will be quite the exploring I see. :o
3: I belive you surpassed the number of spikes in 1001 Spikes  :-X
4: Ignis, huh. Like Latin for Fire. And she is in Sea Zone... Poor Ignis won't she die down there D: D: D:
5: Switches. YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY :D :D
6: This will be a pain. I can tell.
7 and 8: Mooving blocks. Wiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii. I love riding mooving blocks
9: *thinking for a boss suitable for that giant space*
10: OMFG SHE IS ALREADY DYING D: D: D: D:
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 22 August 2015, 17:15:36
The observant will have noticed that my signature has been updated to contain "Sea Zone". Some of you may be wondering, "why is there a Sea Zone in Kim's signature?". Others may be wondering something entirely different, like "when is Lunar Shadow version 4 going to be released?" or "what will be the next thing I do after I beat the final boss of this video game I've been playing recently?" or "what's the next dinner gonna be?". :P


Well, I can answer only about the Sea Zone.

It can be accessed by entering a password in Servant Quarters RR. Not the Konami Code or the Konami Code backwards. L R L L R L R R L R L L.
Charity, kindness, charity, charity, kindness, charity, kindness, kindness, charity, kindness. (And probably start thereafter.)
The left eye sees charity, the right eye sees kindness. Or something. Haven't decided yet what the hint will be or what the code will be. :(

As such, it's still inaccessible, so I moved the start point to there for the purpose of these screenshots! :D

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Yes, inventory items now have a description added to them at their names. Pressing Z on them will (usually) add another one, if the item doesn't do something. (So the Map System, the Save Disk, cakes, Life Pots, those have only one description.)
At this time, several items have "New description required" as a description, since their original descriptions (like that of the keys) were moved. (Also the Ocean Key has been renamed to the Bubble Key for consistency.)

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The Sea Zone map, as viewed from the Map System. Fake walls are there, too, but they're displayed solid (like in the Sand Zone of vanilla Cave Story).

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Aside from water, the Sea Zone also has spikes. And aside from spikes and water? Spikes in water.

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This girl… her name is Ignis. Her last name is du Blaze. You can first meet her in the Sea Zone, or in Tower RR (if you rematch Sycor); currently no additional dialogue regarding this exists.

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There are three switches. Activate them all, and you can reach the boss room!

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Not all is as it seems! Some of the blocks are breakable, so if you see a suspicious-looking wall, check the map or attack that wall. (Breakable blocks are a lighter shade of green in the map than solid blocks. Spikes appear on that map as solid blocks, by the way.)

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Moving blocks also appear in the Sea Zone. But what if they're the only way to reach certain areas? Oh no, there's no way across! D:

… oh, wait, the terminals nearby will make the moving blocks move as well, so that you can't get stuck. Genius, right? Of course, there's still the danger of getting crushed into dust by a block, so… it's still dangerous. More dangerous than the Myst Zone or the Confusion Zone areas (neither of which have moving blocks).

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Currently, the Sea Zone lacks monsters. I'm currently wondering what monsters could fit in this area. Aside from the boss, of course.

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That's the boss room. However… I haven't worked on the boss yet, but it will be done eventually. The boss's name? Cheriza or something like that. Who is Cheriza? The Sea Zone boss. That's who. :P

(click to show/hide)
The only house in the Sea Zone. Ignis lives here.

By the way, Ignis's face is never shown… kinda like Team Fortress 2's Pyro; their faces have never been shown so far I know.
However, I can outright confirm that Ignis is a girl (like Samus).
The Sea Zone is where one learns more about Ignis, sort of.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 17 August 2015, 01:03:34
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 August 2015, 18:40:26
As I've said before going to sleep earlier, I'd put up screenshots, and HERE THEY ARE!

It took longer than I thought, however; I kinda misremembered something… and had to try and fix it over and over and over. Eleven-button passwords are harder to script in than I thought, even harder than the Myst: Blood Garden one. :P
What

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 August 2015, 18:40:26
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Looks neat. THOSE FACES THOUGH

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 August 2015, 18:40:26
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Will there be more passwords?

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 August 2015, 18:40:26
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No, I can't.
Too busy fangirling over the mod :D :D

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 August 2015, 18:40:26
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Cool… WHAT!?

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 August 2015, 18:40:26
So, yeah. Comments and thoughts on the above, anyone? :3
Beta release, please  C:




Oh, and favorite digit is 6.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 16 August 2015, 22:41:21
Quote from: Shane on 16 August 2015, 19:53:46
Let me guess. Konami code?

What happens if it's entered backwards?
Yep, and confusion.

Quote from: Shane on 16 August 2015, 19:53:46
… they look the same to me.

Will the latter have Bute?
Maybe?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 16 August 2015, 19:53:46
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 August 2015, 02:46:08
What is your favorite digit? (Like, 0 - 9.)
0.
Favorite number would be 19 (20 as of 25 February 2016)…

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 August 2015, 18:40:26
(click to show/hide)
Let me guess. Konami code?

What happens if it's entered backwards?

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 August 2015, 18:40:26
(click to show/hide)
… they look the same to me.

Will the latter have Bute?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 16 August 2015, 19:36:41
Quote from: alfasketer on 16 August 2015, 19:17:16
1st screen: I like thy Background. It has that 3D effect. Great work.
Technically, it's a recolor of a background from Cave Story Beta. Seen here (http://www.cavestory.org/game-info/beta-images.php?i=29).

Quote from: alfasketer on 16 August 2015, 19:17:16
2nd screen: 30 LIVES, HERE WE COME :3
* cue the Myst Zone >;3 *

Quote from: alfasketer on 16 August 2015, 19:17:16
3rd screen: Nice smiles. I would definetly give me nightmares :D (Kidding.) About the special thing, you used and inverted face for the exit, and just changed the bottom ties.
Yep~

Quote from: alfasketer on 16 August 2015, 19:17:16
4th and 5th screen: It looks nice. yes. Just a question: that was Confusion zone right (I don't quite remember how it looked like.)
Yeah, the first pic is the Myst Zone, and the second one is the Confusion Zone. :3
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 16 August 2015, 19:17:16
1st screen: I like thy Background. It has that 3D effect. Great work.
2nd screen: 30 LIVES, HERE WE COME :3
3rd screen: Nice smiles. I would definetly give me nightmares :D (Kidding.) About the special thing, you used and inverted face for the exit, and just changed the bottom ties.
4th and 5th screen: It looks nice. yes. Just a question: that was Confusion zone right (I don't quite remember how it looked like.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 16 August 2015, 18:40:26
As I've said before going to sleep earlier, I'd put up screenshots, and HERE THEY ARE!

It took longer than I thought, however; I kinda misremembered something… and had to try and fix it over and over and over. Eleven-button passwords are harder to script in than I thought, even harder than the Myst: Blood Garden one. :P

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)


So, yeah. Comments and thoughts on the above, anyone? :3
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 16 August 2015, 15:14:19
Counting myself, 7. So 437 at the moment?

Anyway, the updated HP thing.
(click to show/hide)
Think that'll suffice?

It's to answer the question of why 3-HP mode is canon, and appears in a book in Servant Quarters RR. :)

There's also some books that explain about the Taint, but THAT I think should be a surprise. :3
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 16 August 2015, 07:38:22
 :3
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: AuroraDash on 16 August 2015, 07:36:42
4 :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 16 August 2015, 02:46:08
For the lolz.


I have a question for you guys, now:

What is your favorite digit? (Like, 0 - 9.)


It's going to be used for a new puzzle.



EDIT: SQ RR has been updated, massively. It's larger. There's puzzles in it. And THERE ARE SMILEY FACES ON TEH WALLS AND IT SAYS THE TRUE CONFUSION HAS JUST BEGUN AAAH

(But yeah it refers to the Confusion Zone, that about the "true confusion".)


I'll put screenshots up way later. It's almost 3 AM here. Good night.
* falls asleep in front of computer monitor listening to "Goura's Lair" from Summon Night: Swordcraft Story 2 *
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 14 August 2015, 16:58:20
Oh, it's implode... Oh.
(http://i.imgur.com/4QmbIBq.gif)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 14 August 2015, 16:55:31
Implode: burst inward
Explode: burst outward, usually with noise


So why did the Castle Master do that, Kim? Why did he cast a spell to make Serenth implode on itself if a Karjamian appears? Why not explode instead?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 14 August 2015, 16:19:48
Serenth will self-explode. I thought It was explosion-proof since that
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I mean...
(http://i.imgur.com/4QmbIBq.gif)
It can't explode any harder than that.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 14 August 2015, 16:07:18
It says nothing about Karjams of any kind. I'm not even going to mention them in the Lunar Shadow verse.

In fact, the Serenth galaxy will self-implode if a Karjamian were to be detected in it, due to a spell the Castle Master cast on the galaxy.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 13 August 2015, 18:18:40
I still say it is Red Karjams…
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 11 August 2015, 23:39:29
Considering how it changes from blue to red, I'd say it's… FORESHADOWING FOR A FUTURE PROJECT. Darkness gathering, perhaps? Maybe a Final Fantasy-esque plot? Who knows.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 11 August 2015, 17:33:00
What does that tablet say? Something about Red Karjams being the true final boss?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 10 August 2015, 17:02:57
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 10 August 2015, 16:54:10
I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!

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Lunar Shadow 10 Confirmed!!!
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 10 August 2015, 16:54:10
I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAAAACK!

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Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lynn on 10 August 2015, 14:22:42
Doesn't look like it; it's fixed apparently.

Also curiosity = piqued
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: AuroraDash on 10 August 2015, 07:13:07
Quote from: Caitlin on 10 August 2015, 03:18:08
Kim is planning a special surprise soon. What is it? I cannot say, for it would be breaking Kim's trust. Hinata can also not say.



Also, that area in the screenshot with Serenity speaking gibberish? I can say that it will be updated massively - for one thing, it will actually not have the tiles for day.



Also, spoiler alert: the heroine dies.
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So, I assume Serenity no longer speaks gibberish~?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 10 August 2015, 06:53:54
YESSSS! Me love some surprises.

And don't make such a spoiler alert please. My heart jumped out of my chest and flapped on the floor like a fish out of the water. :D :D :P :P
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Caitlin on 10 August 2015, 03:18:08
Kim is planning a special surprise soon. What is it? I cannot say, for it would be breaking Kim's trust. Hinata can also not say.



Also, that area in the screenshot with Serenity speaking gibberish? I can say that it will be updated massively - for one thing, it will actually not have the tiles for day.



Also, spoiler alert: the heroine dies.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 02 August 2015, 14:31:47
Quote from: alfasketer on 29 July 2015, 15:26:25
That looks Faaaaantastic. So Valerie is saved and all that Jazz. The building in front of the castle will be evacuated right. I don't want rainbow hair girl to die. :D
Valerie actually escapes as soon as the Castle Master is defeated. Once the castle starts falling apart, the surviving NPCs flee now that they can safely do so.

That includes the girl with the rainbow-colored hair, Selena Daria. (She gets mad if someone calls her "Selena" or "Daria". Not sure why, though.)

Quote from: alfasketer on 29 July 2015, 15:26:25
I just remembered about that Golden Life Capsule. What purpose will they serve?
And Kim. Why the dialoge box is angled on the left site and rounded on the right.
Possibly a red herring, at this moment? I forgot about that... ^^;
As for the dialogue box, it's as Daphne says - the Cave Story beta had such dialogue boxes.

Quote from: Shane on 29 July 2015, 17:32:51
First random thing that came to mind, actually...
How did I forget that ::)

Quote from: Shane on 29 July 2015, 17:32:51
Um. Did you perhaps have that event as the final one, and forgot an <END or something?
That might be the problem.
It was indeed. For someone who quit modding, you still know a lot about it. :o

Quote from: Shane on 29 July 2015, 17:32:51
If I had to guess, it will either increase maximum life by a large amount (like 15), or it will be a quest item for a reward.

Though this brings new questions to mind that I'll be asking in the Questions thread.
As you wish. I'll answer as soon as I can.

Quote from: Shane on 29 July 2015, 17:32:51
EDIT:
Oh hey, page 16. Yay.

For a 49th post, I guess it's okay. Lacks green, though. :P
What about the grass in the picture in the quote? :))
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 29 July 2015, 17:32:51
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 28 July 2015, 19:22:32
Okay

Shane

How in the world did you guess that correctly? O.o
First random thing that came to mind, actually...

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 29 July 2015, 15:04:40
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-290715145450.png)

I have absolutely no idea what the heck Serenity is saying here. That wasn't even scripted in. Either it's a bug, or the mod has become sentient O_O

But probably the former.
Um. Did you perhaps have that event as the final one, and forgot an <END or something?
That might be the problem.

Quote from: alfasketer on 29 July 2015, 15:26:25
I just remembered about that Golden Life Capsule. What purpose will they serve?
If I had to guess, it will either increase maximum life by a large amount (like 15), or it will be a quest item for a reward.

Though this brings new questions to mind that I'll be asking in the Questions thread.



EDIT:
Oh hey, page 16. Yay.

For a 49th post, I guess it's okay. Lacks green, though. :P
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Penelope on 29 July 2015, 16:20:32
@Kim Tyranto, regarding the dialogue box...

Is it perhaps because of the Cave Story beta (http://www.cavestory.org/game-info/beta-images.php?i=32) having those?



In addition, those clouds look cloudy.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 29 July 2015, 15:26:25
That looks Faaaaantastic. So Valerie is saved and all that Jazz. The building in front of the castle will be evacuated right. I don't want rainbow hair girl to die. :D

I just remembered about that Golden Life Capsule. What purpose will they serve?
And Kim. Why the dialoge box is angled on the left site and rounded on the right.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 29 July 2015, 15:04:40
Alas, Yui is correct. Serenity's dad is definitely deceased; it was only by the power of "the one who opposes darkness" that he was permitted to speak to his daughter.
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She wakes up outside the castle and becomes playable. (The epilogue is playable, sort-of.)

Going as far left as possible will have a cutscene. It's still not finished, but...

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-290715145450.png)

I have absolutely no idea what the heck Serenity is saying here. That wasn't even scripted in. Either it's a bug, or the mod has become sentient O_O

But probably the former.



And yes that's Valerie standing there. Depending on events, others may also be there. Who? I'll not say~
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Yui on 29 July 2015, 09:27:53
... or it could still be a twist. That area appears to have no exits, as far as we can see from the pic. Perhaps it's all just a dream from a tired Serenity who collapses in the end? I know I'd probably collapse with all that I'd be going through if I was in her shoes.

And @Kim, those corners in the background wall look a bit odd. Even more odd than an Oddish.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 28 July 2015, 21:22:47
O_o whaaa.....
OOHH MY GOD.
Shane is a psychic confirmed. :o :o :o

So... her father is actually alive, huh? Go figure. That would've been nice twist.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 28 July 2015, 19:22:32
Okay

Shane

How in the world did you guess that correctly? O.o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 28 July 2015, 19:20:33
...

That's secretly Serenity's deceased father disguised as King (probably Serenity's favorite Cave Story character) talking to her after the castle is escaped when the castle master is beaten?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 28 July 2015, 19:19:08
A bit of both.

(click to show/hide)

So, what do you guys think is happening there?

I know all, but I will not reveal all just yet. :3
(Unless someone somehow guesses correctly.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 28 July 2015, 15:57:51
So any  progress or are you still on break?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 21 July 2015, 19:58:45
Quote from: Shane on 17 July 2015, 15:05:56
Would it be possible to have the Myst Zone bosses have various boss themes play based on the player's choices? Like, say, if they want Eyes of Flame to play in that boss fight, they just interact with a certain terminal, or something?
That could be arranged...

The Sycor rematch has seven possible songs at this time, thus uses seven flags (1360 to 1366).

Thus, for the other bosses, that would probably equal thirty-five extra flags to be used? I dunno.


I'll set up a poll for this.

EDIT: done~
Basically, if one option has five votes more than the other, that option wins.
Alternatively, if all members voted, the option with the most votes win.

The deadline? Whenever the last ORG requests I've made are finished. Nobody knows when that will be; thus, I didn't set an expiry date for the poll.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 17 July 2015, 15:05:56
Would it be possible to have the Myst Zone bosses have various boss themes play based on the player's choices? Like, say, if they want Eyes of Flame to play in that boss fight, they just interact with a certain terminal, or something?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 16 June 2015, 19:00:13
Quote from: Alexis on 14 June 2015, 00:09:06
I'm... fairly certain that in-universe me (the boss Alexis) would not be able to know that at all. :o
Indeed.

Quote from: Alexis on 14 June 2015, 00:09:06
I thought Luna was going to be invulnerable? :o
Well, she is invulnerable in the first phase of their battle, technically. :P

Quote from: Caitlin on 14 June 2015, 17:23:48
There ought to be chocolate cake as well, I believe.

Any chances of that, cousin?
Well, as the previous cake isn't chocolate cake yet, I guess it could work.

Quote from: AuroraDash on 14 June 2015, 17:30:39
Is there going to be a boss in the upper part of Tower RR?


If you go all the way to the right past the spikes, which can be done with the Arcanum, there's an Undead Core arena thingy there.
Yeah, after you beat Sycor in the Laboratory, you can reach Tower RR and battle Sycor again, but it's even harder due to the deathtraps there. You'll have to go on the mini-cores and avoid getting killed by transformed Shinica and transformed... someone.

The second Sycor match is optional, to the point of being able to pick one of several songs to play during the boss fight. After defeating them, you can obtain a Cake.

Quote from: Ariana on 16 June 2015, 01:59:44
Wait

There's an alpha release?
Well, if there are beta releases then there are probably alpha releases too, right? :P
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Yui on 16 June 2015, 01:59:44
Wait

There's an alpha release?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 14 June 2015, 18:31:06
I can neither confirm nor deny that.

What happens in the alpha release, stays in the alpha release. :b
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Bloom Leigh Seymour on 14 June 2015, 17:40:49
Previous posts claim Sycor2 is battled there as of version 4 as a bonus boss.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: AuroraDash on 14 June 2015, 17:30:39
Is there going to be a boss in the upper part of Tower RR?


If you go all the way to the right past the spikes, which can be done with the Arcanum, there's an Undead Core arena thingy there.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 14 June 2015, 17:30:05
Too much cake.
But if it happens eventually:
(http://reactionimage.org/img/gallery/704257793.jpg)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Caitlin on 14 June 2015, 17:28:18
Then, strawberry cake. Or vanilla cake. Or a second cake in general.

From what I've read as a guest, I'd say Serenity needs a lot of cheering up after the events.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 14 June 2015, 17:26:01
There is. Search a few pages back.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Caitlin on 14 June 2015, 17:23:48
There ought to be chocolate cake as well, I believe.

Any chances of that, cousin?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Alexis on 14 June 2015, 00:09:06
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 June 2015, 16:53:54
It is done. They have been added. A plot twist has also been added, but to access that, you need to defeat a different boss that, currently, has nothing to say about the subject. What is this plot twist?

Well...

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I'm... fairly certain that in-universe me (the boss Alexis) would not be able to know that at all. :o


Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 June 2015, 16:53:54
Also, I had trouble handling both Shinica and Luna, especially since Luna does 5 damage on contact and has a lot of attacks. Attacking her while Shinica is okay will do nothing - in fact, she can't be harmed if Shinica is the current boss.

After Shinica's beaten, however, Luna can be damaged.
I thought Luna was going to be invulnerable? :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 12 June 2015, 17:44:11
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 June 2015, 16:53:54
It is done. They have been added. A plot twist has also been added, but to access that, you need to defeat a different boss that, currently, has nothing to say about the subject. What is this plot twist?

Well...

(click to show/hide)




(http://cdn.meme.am/images/300x/8112316.jpg)


How in the World is this possible. I-I-I mean.....
(click to show/hide)

How.... just How... I can't... I can't process it ;_;
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 12 June 2015, 16:53:54
It is done. They have been added. A plot twist has also been added, but to access that, you need to defeat a different boss that, currently, has nothing to say about the subject. What is this plot twist?

Well...

(click to show/hide)


Also, I had trouble handling both Shinica and Luna, especially since Luna does 5 damage on contact and has a lot of attacks. Attacking her while Shinica is okay will do nothing - in fact, she can't be harmed if Shinica is the current boss.

After Shinica's beaten, however, Luna can be damaged.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 12 June 2015, 10:07:35
Shinica and Luna are going to be tough to beat. Kim had trouble with them both at the same time. (She is working on their boss fight at the moment.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 08 June 2015, 03:14:30
Okay, I think screenshots would be a bit too much. (25 and counting.)

An alpha release is in order, then.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 07 June 2015, 23:14:49
@Shane:
Probably.
And you really need to do something about that internet. :-/

@alfasketer:
55555 (http://lunarshadowcs.createaforum.com/lunar-shadow/progress-and-future-versions/msg861/#msg861).
(Okay, sadly not containing a 5 in its post ID {861} or reply number {188} but the answer's there. Black on white.)
So, since Shane can't access the LS Blog, I have little choice but to do this... LET LOOSE THE WALL OF TEXT!

Myst Zone: Blood Garden
- There are now enemies. They're just flying Critters, Power Critters, and giant beetles ("Basu"?) from the Egg Corridor? from vanilla Cave Story. Oh, and undead bats.
- Other NPCs will include robot NPCs that look just like Malco from vanilla Cave Story. One of them, X-100, guards the Myst Zone's door to the next area. The only hint is found in the Servant Quarters library after talking to it... or at this forum. ;)
- A new outfit is added, but is purely aesthetic. This outfit is the formal blue outfit.
- The air tank and Valkyrie Wings will cease to work in a certain area of the Blood Garden. Leave that area and they will work again, but... yeah. A robot suspects that it is a girl called Shiori Shauntal. Certain outfits (like the Aqua Armor) are supposed to prevent the player from drowning regardless of that, however, and there's a non-flight path.
- The Myst Zone is now part of the best ending plot. I didn't plan it and this is like a bolt from the gosh darn blue. You guys know how Lady Ilina from the Tirahnys Continent is missing, right? Well... the Castle Master is responsible for that. Yes. The Tirahnys Continent's once president was kidnapped and held prisoner. Or something.
- Shiori Shauntal, as mentioned above. Currently, she's only mentioned, having survived an incident that turned the Blood Garden into what it is now, two years ago. Little else is known about her. Is she going to be a key character? A boss? A zombie? Part of the final boss's evil plot to ruin Newerth?

Tower
- Azehr, the Central Tower boss, has been implemented, and works okay. He has a habit of shouting “NO WAY” rapidly, to the point of annoyance. However, say that it’s annoying, and he gets angry. There are five battles against him, and he prevents access to the Top Floor.
- The trope “The Dev Team Thinks of Everything” probably doesn’t apply to this, but after every form of Azehr is beaten, the floor and ceiling of the maps will be destroyed, which lets the next form commence. The floor and ceiling will stay destroyed for the rest of the mod. (Okay, it technically doesn’t since I’ve reached the limit of maps and have to resort to using TSC for that, but still.)
- Tower SP. This map is another map where Serenity can change her outfits, and also a map where Warp Doors can be found. Currently, they do nothing. I have yet to work on those. Sorry… :(
- A part of the Tower area has flying Bute archers attack. Yes. They’re in the mod, outside of the final boss.
- The entry puzzle is just reading three stone tablets. That’s it. Where are these stone tablets? Find that out for yourself. ;)

Top Floor
- The area is full of servants of the castle master, with machine guns. They’re basically like the maids in the Servant Quarters. 50 HP, occasionally shoots through walls (no idea why that happens since the bullets sometimes ignores things that would normally block NPCs). Yes, the Servant Quarters maids can shoot through walls and I can't fix it. Crazy right?
- There’s access to Tower TF, which is above the map where Azehr is first battled. The sister of the castle master is to the right of that, and she has to be beaten in order to be able to battle the castle master.

Other things
- There are going to be a few outfits that have special effects. So far, the only outfits with effects will just give the wearer immunity to drowning (in other words, they can breathe underwater). That’s it. Lame, considering the existence of the Air-Tank.
- This has yet to be implemented, but there’s going to be more item descriptions than before. Along with the item name, there’s gonna be a description for that item, in addition to the one that appears when trying to check an item in the inventory. I probably forgot about this and remembered about it and forgot and remembered it a lot of times though. :o


So, yeah. That about sums it up for the new things that weren't posted yet, but that are posted on the LS Blog.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 07 June 2015, 20:09:22
What 55555 means???
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 07 June 2015, 18:32:57
"55555"

Bet Kushagra'd like that :P

(He's one of the Vresun forum members, before anyone asks.)


Also I can't access Wordpress either. ;-;
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 07 June 2015, 18:13:43
FINALLY the forum's back :D

I'm lazy and in a hurry and whatnot so blog post (https://cslunarshadow.wordpress.com/2015/06/07/mysterious-issues-and-progress/).

There's old information and new information at the same time. Also, my status update (http://www.cavestory.org/forums/index.php?/statuses/user/7141-kim-tyranto/?status_id=41912) at the Cave Story Tribute Site Forums is related. Since Shane can't access the Cave Story forums (so far I know), I will just quote myself.
Quote from: Kim Tyranto
55555 is the answer.


What kind of evil castle master guy would have that as a password, in the first place? It's even worse than 12345.


Ugh, scripting that entire puzzle was a MAJOR pain. But I've managed to get it working okay, so huzzah.




Also I still wonder what was up with the downtime. :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 04 June 2015, 19:47:53
Quote from: Shane on 04 June 2015, 18:05:25
Don't worry; I don't know what Game of Thrones or a Song of Fire and Ice are, either. (Though I bet that Fire/Ice-type fan Pokémon of yours might.)
Both are basically the same. Ice and Fire is the name of the book series and Game of thrones is the name of the TV series and the first book.

Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 04 June 2015, 18:05:25
Quote from: Dianke on 29 May 2015, 14:42:45
ξ [ Xi ]
μ [ Mu ]
ε [ Epsilon ]
δ [ Delta ]
Ω [ Omega ]
ι [ Iota ]
α [ Alpha ]
β [ Beta ]
γ [ Gamma ]
ζ [ Zeta ]
η [ Eta ]
Θ [ Theta ]
κ [ Kappa ]
λ [ Lamda ]
ν [ Nu ]
Ο [ Omicron ]
π [ Pi ]
ρ [ Rho ]
Σ [ Sigma ]
τ [ Tau ]
Υ [ Upsilon ]
φ [ Phi ]
χ [ Chi ]
Ψ [ Psi ]

Those are the Greek letters in Myst: Entry to Demise, apparently...
Oh hey those are the Greek letters used for the various Continuities of Dragon Riders. While Xi was the one started by Alexis's brother Aidan, Epsilon and Mu are both the first Continuities I had started (Mu being for Project Vresun: Ciraian Ruins, Epsilon being the canon Continuity and the fan Pokémon region named Vresun being unrelated to Dragon Riders).

Quote from: alfasketer on 01 June 2015, 21:22:02
And why so much puzzles Kim ;_; :D
She's a fan of La-Mulana, I believe, which may or may not be the reason for the puzzles.
La-Mulana had evil puzzles. Like, really evil.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 04 June 2015, 10:06:32
Wow, I guess rarely watching TV these days or rarely reading books is to blame for that... D:
Don't worry; I don't know what Game of Thrones or a Song of Fire and Ice are, either. (Though I bet that Fire/Ice-type fan Pokémon of yours might.)

Will the flying archer Bute enemies appear as enemies?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 04 June 2015, 13:46:24
Can we get a sneak peak???

Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 04 June 2015, 10:06:32
Wow, I guess rarely watching TV these days or rarely reading books is to blame for that... D:


Anyway, the Central Tower will have enemies not normally seen in a CS mod. >:3
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 04 June 2015, 05:03:11
GoT or SoIaF are Game of Thrones or A Song of Ice and Fire.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 03 June 2015, 21:45:25
Azehr is fully added! :D
Next, enemies for the Myst Zone, before an alpha release will be available. (I hope.)

Quote from: alfasketer on 03 June 2015, 19:24:31
Can we get a boss items like keys that we can use with terminals. Just because people might not understand that.
Sorry, no.
There is, however, a major hint in Tower D that outright points out the map locations, and I was about to add another major hint regarding the two empty treasure chests that have to be opened to be able to get the Lunar Key.

Quote from: alfasketer on 03 June 2015, 19:24:31
Also a little question: Can we get a rival series to the Ginny Anderson series. Something like LotR ot GoT (or SoIaF)
LotR is Lord of the Rings, right? (No idea about the others though; never heard of those.)

Anyway... a rival series could work, though I have no idea what. And even then, it might be that the castle inhabitants hate the rival series or something. :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 03 June 2015, 19:24:31
Can we get a boss items like keys that we can use with terminals. Just because people might not understand that.
Also a little question: Can we get a rival series to the Ginny Anderson series. Something like LotR ot GoT (or SoIaF)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 03 June 2015, 14:30:18
Even more updates - I've decided that lame force fields will bar the way to the witches. For each important boss defeated, a force field vanishes. Something like that.
The Top Floor is also finally added, and has various enemies. Like Bute. Yes, them. Those boring guys. But also robot maids. You know, they have 50 HP and shoot at you? Them.
Top Floor O has loads of 'em.

Azehr is important to be able to battle both the witches and Alexis, too - at the moment, I'm working on the Azehr bosses (five maps, thus five forms).


Also, the fictive Ginny Anderson book series now totals 55555 pages. They just keep on becoming larger and larger, huh? D:
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 03 June 2015, 11:33:39
Several various updates, including one for Grialdyn (and post-Grialdyn) - though, I hope it works. (To test, soon.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 02 June 2015, 05:21:28
Well, I guess even Serenity needs a piece of cake after all this crap. :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 01 June 2015, 22:16:49
You know how you can access the Eastern Tower after beating Micren? If you go up to Tower RR, then to the right is a room with terminals (and a shutter with a treasure chest). After Sycor is beaten in the Labyrinth, the terminals are accessible.
(The only way to get to the Reservoir is by beating Sycor, but if you cheat to get around that... Sycor can't be rematched, either. :P )
Those terminals will be usable, and each terminal sets a flag and unsets several of those. Then, after the cutscene, the song selected is chosen.
After beating Sycor again, the shutter is removed and the treasure can safely be obtained - what is it? Is it a bird? Is it a plane? No, it's a cake! ;D

As for the puzzles... well, if you can just waltz in it'd be pretty dull, in my opinion :P
(But relax, it's easy.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 01 June 2015, 21:22:02
How we can actually pick one of the songs?
And why so much puzzles Kim ;_; :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 01 June 2015, 21:16:07
Sycor2: fully functional, so far - you can also pick one of six songs (or silence) to play in the battle.
And you can, sort-of, access Central Tower - you can't go down yet, though, and to go up, you need to solve a puzzle. >:3

Today may have been my birthday, but I ain't taking a break, even then.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 30 May 2015, 22:19:13
I'll try to post 'em... after I'm done with the whole Sycor2 thing and adding enemies (not bosses, yet) to the Myst Zone.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 30 May 2015, 22:10:10
Oh, well. I guess that's that. Still, it looks super cool.
Kim. Not to sound mean, but we demand screens. Pretty please.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 30 May 2015, 20:11:39
Not Sue and Misery, but sort-of like them.

If you get the chance, in the current version, go to the Eastern Tower (the Map System calls it "Tower RR"), and look around. That's where you'll battle Sycor again, as a bonus boss, alongside the transformed Shinica and the transformed unnamed minion of the final boss (whose name is unknown though she acts like Transformed Sue does). Use Lv3 Arcanum if you have to, in order to see the room entirely.

How difficult is that? Well... I sequence-broke while testing, and went from Myst, to the Reservoir, beat Micren, and went to Tower RR (80 max HP, level 2 Misery's End, level 3 Acidic Bubble, level 3 Arcanum). I got killed by the boss and its minions. In other words, Sycor2 is difficult as who-knows-what.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 30 May 2015, 17:55:36
Sycor's minions. I guess you mean Sue and Misery. I hope at least at the end of the game to be a little buffed so they can stand a challenge.
And Myst sound interesting. I hope I will not get lost. :D
-=Damn it, it's hard to say something good without reusing -_-. Oh, well=-
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 30 May 2015, 17:08:49
Can finally access these fora ;D

So, yeah. The Myst Door Labyrinth.
There are hints in the first Myst Zone area. :)

The other Myst Zone areas are updated a bit as well; there are loads of spikes and magma in the fourth area, hidden walls in the third, and... well, you know how Entrance I had nothing, previously? Well, most of it is now with force-fields. Why? It leads to the fifth Myst Zone area (and vice versa). And you need the Valkyrie Wings to be able to travel most of the Myst Zone anyway...

Right now, I'm busy with Sycor's 2nd battle - it has minions, though, and if you sequence break somehow, you can only reach Sycor 2 if you beat Sycor in the Laboratory. ;)
Now... how will Sycor with minions be like? Tough, I suppose.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 30 May 2015, 08:32:48
Om my god, this is complex. I have no idea how you'll pull that off. I guess we can only wait and see.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 30 May 2015, 01:10:45
There is progress on Kim's end; I am posting this information for her. (She is having issues with accessing the forums, at the moment.)

Quote from: Kim
Regarding the Myst Zone:
  • The maps are now connected. I repeat, the maps are now connected. At the moment it's possible to travel between them. The next Alpha release will likely be Myst Zone-related.
  • I renamed the area to "Myst Zone" - I've played Sonic the Hedgehog for too long. However, the map names are unchanged.
  • "Myst - Blood Garden" now had a dressing room as well. So you can change your outfits in the Myst Zone too. I may regret that, though; if I update with a new outfit (whatever outfit it may be since there's still one unused "slot") I'll have to update the other two maps as well. Not to mention the "errors" I get on saving those maps' scripts.
  • "Myst - Entry to Demise" now has doors. And NPCs. And a boss. But you can't fight it without saving in that area and reloading immediately. The NPCs walk around - this is intentional. They don't care about Serenity being there, they're just rude. Three of those NPCs work for the Castle Master, against their will. And hate their uniforms, probably. Now, the doors... the puzzle answer is visible from the signposts. Just need to figure it out, but when the Alpha Release comes, I might decide to tell you guys. Or decide that you guys ought to figure it out yourselves. The Greek Letter "Mu" is a shortcut, but only if you've already passed that area through the Omega Door.
  • "Myst - Demise of the Maiden" will have a tileset change; I hear Dia's working on a tileset and I believe it might work for that area. The boss there still can be killed without a boss fight, but there's a literally inescapable pit at the moment. To fix. Yes.
  • "Myst - Desire of Demise" is finished, tile-wise.
Regarding the rest of the Lunar Soul Castle:
  • Minor updates here and there. Also removed Igor. Rest in peace, Igor, you've earned your rest. I cry silently...
  • Two songs have been added, one of which will be used in the Myst Zone as the area theme (thus far). Gilgamesh's battle theme in Final Fantasy 5? Listen to it. Then, tell me your thoughts on whether or not you'd listen to it endlessly.

The Greek Letter Mu would be μ ... so Ω and μ are both exit doors?

Kim, please add screenshots when you can ;-;
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 29 May 2015, 16:32:15
Well, its good to hear that there's progress. However I wanted to ask if there is something that I can help with.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 29 May 2015, 14:42:45
Progress report: none on Kim's end yet, she's still wondering about where the "defeated boss check" thing would be.
That, or waiting for something else. Has she more ORG requests we are unaware of? :o



On my end... I am busy with a tileset; maybe Kim might use it for a Myst area? Such a thing would be awesome.
If not, it could always be used in a future mod of hers.

It is a tileset similar to those of the Entrance and Top Floor areas. It is mostly recolored to red and black. Progress is not finished; when it is, I shall post it as soon as I can.



EDIT:
ξ [ Xi ]
μ [ Mu ]
ε [ Epsilon ]
δ [ Delta ]
Ω [ Omega ]
ι [ Iota ]
α [ Alpha ]
β [ Beta ]
γ [ Gamma ]
ζ [ Zeta ]
η [ Eta ]
Θ [ Theta ]
κ [ Kappa ]
λ [ Lamda ]
ν [ Nu ]
Ο [ Omicron ]
π [ Pi ]
ρ [ Rho ]
Σ [ Sigma ]
τ [ Tau ]
Υ [ Upsilon ]
φ [ Phi ]
χ [ Chi ]
Ψ [ Psi ]

Those are the Greek letters in Myst: Entry to Demise, apparently...
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 22 May 2015, 21:10:37
I would prefer the Top Floor room before the witches.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 08 May 2015, 20:07:26
Um.

Wouldn't that depend?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 08 May 2015, 10:07:48
So...

Should the "boss progress checker" thing be at Top Floor SQ, or in Top Floor where the Witches are battled (thus giving them even more dialogue)?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 05 May 2015, 11:19:07
SHANE

THOSE
ARE

...

... actually, I'll have to think about it though those require ASM hacking. (I wish I was a technopath; that way I'd be able to, like, ASM every single weapon using, well, technopathy. :P )
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 05 May 2015, 02:38:33
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 03 May 2015, 17:53:56
Too... boring, I'd say. Would lose points on the rating, probably. What rating, who knows?

Anyway, not much progress, but the Top Floor (post-final boss) has been expanded greatly (and by that, I mean the music room is now larger and a veritable room of oddness and there's one new room as well), so it's no longer just a music room.

There'll probably be items there, dunno what just yet though. I suppose having items appear based on what you obtained would work? (So, like if you skipped Misery's End it teleports to Top Floor MR or something.)

Or perhaps a new weapon. Not sure what just yet, but why would a new weapon be obtainable in the very last portion of the mod? Sounds fishy to me, but then again, Shane's a Pisces.
Um. I still don't eat fish.


Quote from: alfasketer on 03 May 2015, 20:49:10
Well that's good to hear. Music room will be finally something more than a lamer version of ORG view. With items non-the-less (I'm expecting cake)
By new weapon I guess You're talking about modified Spur and if Nemesis will be Heavy Press, then the only thing needed is a sword. (Thinking about i just remembered that you won't have Nemesis Curly with you.)
Yeah, Cave Story music tends to not play while Cave Story itself is open and the inactive window.
I tend to listen to music with either an ORG View program or OrgMaker when I browse the Internet.
(If I'm not listening to other file types like ".mp3" or ".ogg" files.)


Kim, what about the weapons Dia thought up? (One of those 45 she posted at the Vresun fora.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 04 May 2015, 05:20:40
More ammo will be definetly good for both weapons.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 03 May 2015, 21:47:37
The cake will be a lie regarding being found in the music room; I intend on having it in the Top Floor though (maybe where Valerie is).

Moonblast (I think that's the new Spur) will also be obtained before then, going by my notes.

So... who knows? Maybe it'll be a treasure trove of silly magical items like a Whimsical Star or several Life Capsules or items that increase max mana for Acidic Bubble or max ammo for Arcanum.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 03 May 2015, 20:49:10
Well that's good to hear. Music room will be finally something more than a lamer version of ORG view. With items non-the-less (I'm expecting cake)
By new weapon I guess You're talking about modified Spur and if Nemesis will be Heavy Press, then the only thing needed is a sword. (Thinking about i just remembered that you won't have Nemesis Curly with you.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 03 May 2015, 17:53:56
Too... boring, I'd say. Would lose points on the rating, probably. What rating, who knows?

Anyway, not much progress, but the Top Floor (post-final boss) has been expanded greatly (and by that, I mean the music room is now larger and a veritable room of oddness and there's one new room as well), so it's no longer just a music room.

There'll probably be items there, dunno what just yet though. I suppose having items appear based on what you obtained would work? (So, like if you skipped Misery's End it teleports to Top Floor MR or something.)

Or perhaps a new weapon. Not sure what just yet, but why would a new weapon be obtainable in the very last portion of the mod? Sounds fishy to me, but then again, Shane's a Pisces.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 01 May 2015, 21:53:30
I had a lot of trouble with the Sacred Grounds as well, since 2008. It took me about three years to finally reach Ballos...

That said, the Confusion Zone was, apparently, meant to have three floors exactly like the Sacred Grounds, though Kim scrapped that. (Not sure why.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 01 May 2015, 18:46:52
Looking at it like that, maybe it's fair... kinda.
And when I think about it, I couldn't beat hell, but Ballos alone ...
Looks like my previous statement is false. Meh, whatever. Don't mind me :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 01 May 2015, 17:21:31
Original Cave Story has 55 max HP. Currently, Lunar Shadow has at least 60 max HP (and possibly still counting; maybe it will end up at 80 max HP). The final boss uses Ballos' AI (with the Doctor's first form AI).
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 01 May 2015, 08:09:13
19200 HP. WHAT DA HELL. HOW ARE WE SUPPOSE TO FIGHT THIS THING. :D OMG
I mean I can't beat Ballos on Normal, how am I supposed to deal with this :D :D.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 30 April 2015, 22:42:43
Shinica and Luna are indeed a dual boss. Luna uses Igor's AIs while Shinica uses Misery's AI.

Invidia will, at the moment, use Heavy Press's AI.



Luna's first form will have unreasonably high HP (at least 19200 or higher, depending on whether or not Cave Story crashes if it's higher than that), so that most players would focus on beating Shinica instead. Luna's next form will instead have far less HP (less than 700) because that's more fair.



That's my thoughts, at least.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 30 April 2015, 19:57:54
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 28 April 2015, 03:10:27
I think that "Clash on the Big Bridge" (Final Fantasy V, ORG version by SuperJaws100 of the Cave Story Tribute Site Forums) might work for the Myst area. ^^
That song sounds awesome :o

Quote from: alfasketer on 28 April 2015, 05:31:47
Well, we have a clear choice now.
I wanted to ask: if Invidia is going to be a boss, are you planning for a whole new boss, or a normal CS boss (first coming to ming is Misery)
I thought Shinica or Luna would be like Misery. :o

Though, I hear they'd be a dual boss, so who knows. :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 28 April 2015, 05:31:47
Well, we have a clear choice now.
I wanted to ask: if Invidia is going to be a boss, are you planning for a whole new boss, or a normal CS boss (first coming to ming is Misery)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 28 April 2015, 03:10:27
I think that "Clash on the Big Bridge" (Final Fantasy V, ORG version by SuperJaws100 of the Cave Story Tribute Site Forums) might work for the Myst area. ^^
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 24 April 2015, 10:39:36
Don't know yet.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 23 April 2015, 18:11:19
Consider me confused. :o

So what songs are considered for that place? "The Power of Heart"? "Rage of Ancients"?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 23 April 2015, 13:38:32
Quote from: alfasketer on 23 April 2015, 13:07:01
Fake walls, huh. Wich type tho? The one you can walk through or the breakable one.
Both. The Confusion Zone is just full of 'em. To, well, confuse people.

Quote from: alfasketer on 23 April 2015, 13:07:01
Tower look even more sci-fi-ish. YAY :D
Thanks :)

Quote from: alfasketer on 23 April 2015, 13:07:01
I wonder why are there many doors in Myst.
To confuse people. (Seriously, that'd be expected in the Confusion Zone of all places.)

Quote from: alfasketer on 23 April 2015, 13:07:01
Bloody garden is bloody creapy.
Thank goodness. (The lack of enemies... even creepier, though also boring...)

Quote from: alfasketer on 23 April 2015, 13:07:01
The Last Cave type area looks awesome. I have never seen that much of an airborn plarforming with botomless pits. I'm looking forward to it.
Thanks. :)
(Currently, that's as far as possibly accessible. I have yet to add more of that area.)



EDIT:
Okay, I've decided that the Myst area will have a boss rush of ~five bosses.

The first boss will be similar to Micren (and Ironhead from vanilla CS), though you just stand around dodging fish and boss. ;)

The second one? Unknown.
The third one? Unknown.
The fourth one? Unknown.
The fifth one? Toroko+ AI.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 23 April 2015, 13:07:01
Fake walls, huh. Wich type tho? The one you can walk through or the breakable one.

Tower look even more sci-fi-ish. YAY :D

I wonder why are there many doors in Myst. Bloody garden is bloody creapy.  The Last Cave type area looks awesome. I have never seen that much of an airborn plarforming with botomless pits. I'm looking forward to it.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 22 April 2015, 23:03:06
Spoiling time~ c:
(click to show/hide)
That's all. Fake walls are added as well, though. Oh, and there'll be *treasure*. I hope~
(click to show/hide)
As you can see, I did some more work on the Tower area. The background for Tower TF is different (since I myself had trouble dodging falling skulls). Then, Tower, Throne. There, you battle Alexis. Important? Heck yes. However, a major plot twist awaits! * shock and horror * Oh, and death trap after beating Alexis. Lame.

(click to show/hide)
The entrance to Myst. Greek letters await! >:3
(click to show/hide)
It's a red Grasstown :o
Sort of. :P
(click to show/hide)
So what we have here is a failure to communicate, mate a Sand Zone-like area (fake walls), a Last Cave-like area (magma) and an area that looks like the Entrance and has a creepy person waiting to get annihilated.



I haven't really connected the areas just yet; I've been too busy getting sidetracked by golden flying saucers other video games and working on some ORGs my ex-boyfriend had made in 2012. (I posted those at the Cave Story Tribute Site Forums (http://www.cavestory.org/forums/index.php?/topic/825-show-off-your-org-music/?p=201458).)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 22 April 2015, 01:53:50
Indeed.


So, bugs. AGAIN.

Those statues are trying to kill me, I tell you. -_-
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 21 April 2015, 22:44:36
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 20 April 2015, 19:24:17
Play.

Okay, that's as best as I can type "okay" while having my eyes closed. :o
At least that's still a word, though. :P

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 20 April 2015, 19:24:17
Anyway, the progress is slow, as usual. :P

Not to mention, the Myst area needs a boss. IT NEEDS ONE.

... Probably going to be a Red Demon recolor or something, which gets a second form as well. Who knows. Lol.
Slow progress is better than no progress. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 21 April 2015, 05:43:22
I want to see Toroko+ as second form. I think it will work ok.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 20 April 2015, 19:24:17
Play.

Okay, that's as best as I can type "okay" while having my eyes closed. :o


Anyway, the progress is slow, as usual. :P

Not to mention, the Myst area needs a boss. IT NEEDS ONE.

... Probably going to be a Red Demon recolor or something, which gets a second form as well. Who knows. Lol.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 17 April 2015, 11:24:52
That'll work. :)
Here's some of the progress I've made.
The titles are mostly random, and if it turns out that Cave Story can't handle the long titles, I'll shorten them. (I think 25 characters would work, but I'm not too sure here.)

Myst: Entry to Demise
- Entered from Reservoir SP after beating certain bosses in the Top Floor
- Has a puzzle - two corridors with six doors each. To continue, one must find the right door; the wrong door leads to the previous area. (Planned; not yet definite.)

Myst: Blood Garden
- Entered from Myst: Entry to Demise
- Fairly straight-forward, just run around, jumping, killing enemies, avoiding death traps, reach the final door. (Enemies still undecided.)

Myst: Demise of Nexash
- Entered from Myst: Blood Garden
- No idea what this place will be like

Myst: Desire of Demise
- Entered from Myst: Demise of Nexash
- No idea what this place will be like

Myst: Demise of the Maiden
- Entered from Myst: Desire of Demise
- Has a boss fight
- Other than that, no idea what the place will be like



Progress is, as always, slow - I'm procrastinating a lot, to be honest.
More playing video games than working on Lunar Shadow, but whatever.
I've yet to think of a fitting theme for the Myst area, but... who knows?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 14 April 2015, 01:00:52
Kim - why not "Myst"?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 13 April 2015, 10:06:36
It got out of development hell. Yes. Way to go, Kim.  :) :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 13 April 2015, 09:55:31
Quote from: Alexis on 28 March 2015, 01:23:16
Does that make Shane "Prince", then?
No.

Quote from: Alexis on 28 March 2015, 01:23:16
Anyway, kinda sad that Alexis (LS) has no portraits ("face pics"), but that's hard to sprite, so it's understandable.
I can't promise anything, but I'll try to ask around, at least.

Quote from: Alexis on 29 March 2015, 17:14:06
Kim is busy with the Confusion Zone (as well as procrastinating somewhat); this most likely explains her inactivity.
From what I can understand, it will require either some "arcanum" thing or some or other wings, so I have no idea.

(Haven't played the mod, in all honesty; I'll probably play it when I get an off day and when the Alexis boss is added.)
O_O

Quote from: Shane on 31 March 2015, 21:42:50
... who knows.

Though Arcanum or Valkyrie Wings being needed, would be interesting.
There are areas that the Valkyrie Wings would not be able to help. Likewise, there are areas that Arcanum cannot help with.
(At least, I think. Haven't tested yet, due to lack of interest caused by lack of enemies in general.)


FINALLY SOME PROGRESS

My head's clear now. There has been some changes to old rooms, and...


... an entirely new area that can be accessed from Reservoir SP after beating the Witches. It lacks a name, but I'll put up a poll for that when I get to work on it.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 31 March 2015, 21:42:50
... who knows.

Though Arcanum or Valkyrie Wings being needed, would be interesting.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Alexis on 29 March 2015, 17:14:06
Kim is busy with the Confusion Zone (as well as procrastinating somewhat); this most likely explains her inactivity.
From what I can understand, it will require either some "arcanum" thing or some or other wings, so I have no idea.

(Haven't played the mod, in all honesty; I'll probably play it when I get an off day and when the Alexis boss is added.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Alexis on 28 March 2015, 01:23:16
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 26 March 2015, 19:11:18
I prefer "Princess" in all honesty. ;P
Does that make Shane "Prince", then?


Anyway, kinda sad that Alexis (LS) has no portraits ("face pics"), but that's hard to sprite, so it's understandable.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 26 March 2015, 19:12:57
All righty then :D ;D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 26 March 2015, 19:11:18
I prefer "Princess" in all honesty. ;P
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 26 March 2015, 19:05:32
All hail, the Queen is back :D ;)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 26 March 2015, 17:58:51
Quote from: Serena on 18 March 2015, 13:50:16
YAAAAAAY

To be honest I wish the things from Beta Cave Story are in Cave Story 2; the TV Tropes page for Cave Story says that Pixel has confirmed that a sequel is very likely.
That's just wishful thinking, etc. though ^^;
... you do realize there's more than one Cave Story 2, right?

Quote from: Serena on 18 March 2015, 13:50:16
WHAT
Nineteen hours is a lot; you must've been rather tired.
You didn't skip out on a few evenings of sleep, have you?
Sleep is important.
I might've... :-[

Quote from: Serena on 18 March 2015, 13:50:16
Maybe that's why Snorlax sleeps a lot?
It took him years to finally stand up, I hear.

Quote from: Dianke on 18 March 2015, 21:50:40
She could, but she's too hardheaded. I did say that she can borrow my computer, but she refused, saying that she would prefer to use her own computer, rather than borrow one. My stepcousin (who helped determine why the computer broke down) said she would try to repair it, though I have no idea how long it would take. Worse, Kim said that even if she could get it repaired, she would not have the money for it.
The best bet would be to get a new hard drive and get a professional to recover all of the data, which would cost a lot of money.
(I might have to ask my sister Lily to help with that; her habit of saving money is a bit extreme but if it saves Kim from having to pay rent like usual instead of "paying" rent by working on Lunar Shadow... then I suppose it will not hurt to ask. Yes, Kim lives with myself and my sisters and stepsisters, as well as the aforementioned stepcousin and also another friend. It is rather complicated, is it not?)
Had I chosen to borrow a computer, I might've started getting impatient.
Patience is something that's always important, after all, hence why I chose not to borrow a computer.

Either way, I have you and your sister Lily to thank for the payment of the repairs; I really owe you two a lot. :)

Quote from: Dianke on 18 March 2015, 21:50:40
The evening she uploaded the Pre-Alpha Kim did say her computer was making weird sounds; aside from the Pre-Alpha Release of version 4, she has made a back-up that included each and every note, map, etc. that she would need.

I suppose she did not want us to be bored while we wait or something?

At least we can work on bug-hunting the Pre-Alpha, no matter how many bugs there are. It should help with when she can finally work on the mod, that she can immediately take out the bugs and do what she can to finish this great mod.
You got that right, Dia :)
Can't just leave without a little gift of pre-alpha testing, even if it's totally made of bugs and whatnot.
Better than nothing, I suppose, but it should suffice as I can tell there exists a list of things to fix. ^^
I also owe the pre-alpha testers a lot :)

Quote from: Shane on 21 March 2015, 00:20:23
In case there's any new posts at the Cave Story forums' thread (assuming there is one; I can't access those forums), someone might have to answer on her behalf where possible. :o
* glomps *

That aside, there wasn't a lot of new posts there (at least, in terms of notifications; only 16 of those while I thought there'd be 64).

Quote from: alfasketer on 23 March 2015, 07:44:21
That's good to hear. My guess is that half of the time spent for the recovery is instaling the games all over again :D. In a few days Kim will be back and the forums will be active again. :3
Yeah, most of the games are back :)
And I'm back, yeah, though not for long (I do have LS to work on, after all :P ) unless I feel lazy and want to take a day off from modding.

Quote from: Lunaris on 23 March 2015, 09:42:45
Indeed.
Kinda wondering, though, what Kim was up to between 18 March and when she will return, though.
Plan out the future Lunar Shadow mods (X and Zero), perhaps?
Planning the Confusion Zone area?

All we can do is wait~
Planning two more mods on Newerth, actually; though, I'll make those only if there are loose ends left to tie up.
Lunar Shadow was planned as a trilogy, and any more might make things about as confusing as Kingdom Hearts' plot.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 23 March 2015, 09:42:45
Indeed.
Kinda wondering, though, what Kim was up to between 18 March and when she will return, though.
Plan out the future Lunar Shadow mods (X and Zero), perhaps?
Planning the Confusion Zone area?

All we can do is wait~
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 23 March 2015, 07:44:21
That's good to hear. My guess is that half of the time spent for the recovery is instaling the games all over again :D. In a few days Kim will be back and the forums will be active again. :3
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 22 March 2015, 22:27:02
Well, this may not be related to the mod, but there is some progress on Kim's computer thing.
The hard drive is replaced, but data recovery will take a while (and according to my stepcousin Amy, that might take anywhere from several hours to as much as a week to find those files and recover it).
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 21 March 2015, 00:20:23
In case there's any new posts at the Cave Story forums' thread (assuming there is one; I can't access those forums), someone might have to answer on her behalf where possible. :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 18 March 2015, 21:50:40
She could, but she's too hardheaded. I did say that she can borrow my computer, but she refused, saying that she would prefer to use her own computer, rather than borrow one. My stepcousin (who helped determine why the computer broke down) said she would try to repair it, though I have no idea how long it would take. Worse, Kim said that even if she could get it repaired, she would not have the money for it.
The best bet would be to get a new hard drive and get a professional to recover all of the data, which would cost a lot of money.
(I might have to ask my sister Lily to help with that; her habit of saving money is a bit extreme but if it saves Kim from having to pay rent like usual instead of "paying" rent by working on Lunar Shadow... then I suppose it will not hurt to ask. Yes, Kim lives with myself and my sisters and stepsisters, as well as the aforementioned stepcousin and also another friend. It is rather complicated, is it not?)

The evening she uploaded the Pre-Alpha Kim did say her computer was making weird sounds; aside from the Pre-Alpha Release of version 4, she has made a back-up that included each and every note, map, etc. that she would need.

I suppose she did not want us to be bored while we wait or something?

At least we can work on bug-hunting the Pre-Alpha, no matter how many bugs there are. It should help with when she can finally work on the mod, that she can immediately take out the bugs and do what she can to finish this great mod.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 18 March 2015, 20:17:18
Well that's sad. Still she uploaded the Pre-Alpha in the last moment and maybe she didn't make chances from then so she backed herself up.  :-[  I hope she could come back soon.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 18 March 2015, 19:53:43
And so Lunar Shadow will be postponed. Getting a new hard drive will probably not be fun. :o

There has been a major setback to progress - Kim's hard drive broke down. :(
Thank goodness there's a back-up of the mod, though.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 18 March 2015, 19:43:25
Nah, it's okay; I'm just going by the TV Tropes page and that might be speculation anyway.
For all we know it might've been a mod with that name that some of NICALIS' people might like.
Who knows?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 18 March 2015, 16:45:39
Quote from: Serena on 18 March 2015, 13:50:16
To be honest I wish the things from Beta Cave Story are in Cave Story 2; the TV Tropes page for Cave Story says that Pixel has confirmed that a sequel is very likely.
That's just wishful thinking, etc. though ^^;

Excuse me? Pixel said it was very UNlikely their to be a sequel. He barely finished Kero Blaster because he had next to none motivation near finishing it. The last rumour was from NICALIS' Macbook where they saw Cave Story 2... and Super 1001 Spikes Turbo... so It ended up more like a dev joke rather than real thing.

Edit: I'm sorry, this sounded assholishly :(
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 18 March 2015, 13:50:16
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 March 2015, 22:26:38
The mini-Balrogs are actually from the Cave Story beta. Or rather, from what little is known about it. This page (http://www.cavestory.org/game-info/beta.php) comes in handy.

In fact, the cake and the diving mask thing from Serenity's beach outfit is also from the pics, as are some of the tiles (like most of the Servant Quarters, mostly).
YAAAAAAY

To be honest I wish the things from Beta Cave Story are in Cave Story 2; the TV Tropes page for Cave Story says that Pixel has confirmed that a sequel is very likely.
That's just wishful thinking, etc. though ^^;

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 16 March 2015, 22:26:38
I was planning on working more on Azehr's room, but I overslept badly (woke up at 19:00 GMT+0, so I slept for about 19 or 18 hours :o ) so there's nothing new to report there.
WHAT
Nineteen hours is a lot; you must've been rather tired.
You didn't skip out on a few evenings of sleep, have you?
Sleep is important.

Maybe that's why Snorlax sleeps a lot?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 16 March 2015, 22:26:38
The mini-Balrogs are actually from the Cave Story beta. Or rather, from what little is known about it. This page (http://www.cavestory.org/game-info/beta.php) comes in handy.

In fact, the cake and the diving mask thing from Serenity's beach outfit is also from the pics, as are some of the tiles (like most of the Servant Quarters, mostly).

I was planning on working more on Azehr's room, but I overslept badly (woke up at 19:00 GMT+0, so I slept for about 19 or 18 hours :o ) so there's nothing new to report there.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 16 March 2015, 15:18:57
The Confusion Zone has mini-toasters? :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 16 March 2015, 06:00:32
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 15 March 2015, 22:56:22

I'll try~

Indeed.Sometimes I don't know what I'm doing though.
The Central Tower is gonna be complicated, since flight would be a major requirement there. And then after Azehr's boss fight, the tower would be damaged and thus have less platforms that can be jumped on. (Permanently, possibly.)
That's the plan though.

Lore-wise, I think I might make that room important...

I might just do that. ^^

I'm more of a Fire-type person :P
1St Trial and error always works.
3Rd Many thing happening at the end. Of course the last part should be really hard.
5Th Oh is that it? Oh OK.

Alfasketer flew away. :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 15 March 2015, 22:56:22
Quote from: Shane on 15 March 2015, 14:40:07
Screenshot 1:
Hey Mermahdé's there :o
The new text box (that's also in the other screenshots with text) looks neat. :)
That's actually... spoilers.
(click to show/hide)
And thanks :)

Quote from: Shane on 15 March 2015, 14:40:07
Screenshot 2:
Um. Those bluish enemies look weird.
(click to show/hide)

Quote from: Shane on 15 March 2015, 14:40:07
Screenshot 3:
Music is its own reward. :P
That so?
Well, I'm going with a 75% chance of having an extra item there.

Quote from: Shane on 15 March 2015, 14:40:07
Screenshot 4:
Let me guess. There's going to be a lot of Quake entities.
You bet.

Quote from: Shane on 15 March 2015, 14:40:07
Screenshots 5 - 7:
Confusion Zone doesn't look all that confusing at the moment :o
The background also looks a bit out-of-place, in my opinion. (The blue one.)
Yeah, it's temporary.
And that's the entrance.

Quote from: Shane on 15 March 2015, 14:40:07
Say, what's the canonical ending of the mod? Is it completing the Confusion Zone, or just beating the boss and getting out of there?
I haven't thought about that, though I'd say that the latter is the best ending.

Also, there are blocks that aren't blocks. ;)
(Shoot suspicious walls.)


Quote from: alfasketer on 15 March 2015, 15:39:47
1st: If you can make the door create a feel of curiosity in the player, well.... he he 8) 
I'll try~
Quote from: alfasketer on 15 March 2015, 15:39:47
2nd: New text boxes. Yay. :D Making the mod in different stile than CS is for the good.
Indeed.
Quote from: alfasketer on 15 March 2015, 15:39:47
3rd: Lame reward? Sadly yeah. Maybe something lore-wise must be more rewarding. And still:

MY OPINION DOESN'T MATTER IF THE CREATOR KNOW WHAT SHE'S DOING :)
Sometimes I don't know what I'm doing though.
The Central Tower is gonna be complicated, since flight would be a major requirement there. And then after Azehr's boss fight, the tower would be damaged and thus have less platforms that can be jumped on. (Permanently, possibly.)
That's the plan though.

Lore-wise, I think I might make that room important...

Quote from: alfasketer on 15 March 2015, 15:39:47
4th: I suggest watching some of the Metroid's endgame escapes. Maybe you'll get some great ideas.
I might just do that. ^^
Quote from: alfasketer on 15 March 2015, 15:39:47
5th: Kim used Confusion. It's super effective :D
I'm more of a Fire-type person :P
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 15 March 2015, 15:39:47

1st: If you can make the door create a feel of curiosity in the player, well.... he he 8)
2nd: New text boxes. Yay. :D Making the mod in different stile than CS is for the good.
3rd: Lame reward? Sadly yeah. Maybe something lore-wise must be more rewarding. And still:

MY OPINION DOESN'T MATTER IF THE CREATOR KNOW WHAT SHE'S DOING :)
4th: I suggest watching some of the Metroid's endgame escapes. Maybe you'll get some great ideas.
5th: Kim used Confusion. It's super effective :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Darth Shane on 15 March 2015, 14:40:07
Screenshot 1:
Hey Mermahdé's there :o
The new text box (that's also in the other screenshots with text) looks neat. :)

Screenshot 2:
Um. Those bluish enemies look weird.

Screenshot 3:
Music is its own reward. :P

Screenshot 4:
Let me guess. There's going to be a lot of Quake entities.

Screenshots 5 - 7:
Confusion Zone doesn't look all that confusing at the moment :o
The background also looks a bit out-of-place, in my opinion. (The blue one.)

Say, what's the canonical ending of the mod? Is it completing the Confusion Zone, or just beating the boss and getting out of there?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 15 March 2015, 13:17:34
Yeah, it's not fun. But at least it's been fixed, and such.
(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

(click to show/hide)

That's about it for now. I hope to at least finish the map transitions in the Central Tower area before adding Azehr...
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 14 March 2015, 17:19:26
Oh wow
Hope things go better for her, then.
Accidental deletions are not fun.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 14 March 2015, 00:08:53
She can't promise anything, but she'll try, most likely.

Such is my guess.


EDIT:
Now with major setback, apparently.
Why she starts at 6 AM with modding, only she would know... though she did delete the statue room by accident, forcing her to do everything there all over again. And that just from trying to rename it.
Thank goodness she had that glitch with the statue rooms, then; otherwise the script would have been lost eternally and her work would be even harder.

Setbacks will be inevitable, I suppose. :(
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 13 March 2015, 15:37:58
Finally!
Was wondering when you'd work on the mod again, Kim.

Though, please try to post at least one screenshot of new stuff per day?
Curiosity is kind of a thing that has been piqued.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 13 March 2015, 15:15:43
That's good to hear. Can't wait.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 13 March 2015, 14:04:17
WE HAVE PROGRESS
Sort of

I now have 100% motivation to work on the mod
So now I will get back to work
And not procrastinate

Also I forgot there's a mermaid in the mod.
Her name shall thus be Natsumi, the name that I had decided in early February to be Eron Armweak's name. (Which changed, to reference Fullmetal Alchemist in a way.)

Also, the ORG requests are finished and thus the next beta will have them.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 11 March 2015, 17:36:32
Quote from: alfasketer on 11 March 2015, 16:50:29
Kim, will you participate in ModCon2015 or Moding Awards 2015. I think there is a pretty big chance of winning best story.
While I won't participate in ModCon at all, I'm not sure how the Modding Awards work, but if it's just nominate-and-vote, I won't mind.

If I were to take part in the ModCon thing, that would mean deadlines and I'm not a fan of them when it comes to modding. I prefer to take my time. :)

(Speaking of which I really need to start working again before I forget about the mod entirely. The Confusion Zone has music now, though only one map that can't be accessed at all at the moment.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 11 March 2015, 16:50:29
Kim, will you participate in ModCon2015 or Moding Awards 2015. I think there is a pretty big chance of winning best story.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 09 March 2015, 21:30:15
Glitch of the Statue Room:
Normal:
(click to show/hide)
After the final boss:
(click to show/hide)
Shoot those statues:
(click to show/hide)

Those look little like statues; I'll be working on that eventually.

From left to right:

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I can safely say I royally messed up here. :))

I'll ask at the CS forums, since that'd be more helpful than anything else, I reckon.
I mean, keeping it that way would be weird.

EDIT:
It has been repaired at last :))
Though, considering the final boss's statue turns into a statue of his sister's... uh, yeah.
I am definitely gonna have to switch statues, now.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 07 March 2015, 11:42:41
... the Confusion Zone sounds like part fake difficulty, if I had to be honest.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 04 March 2015, 14:28:26
So basically...
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Sorry.

So I assume that Bloody Tears is now actually listenable?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 04 March 2015, 00:35:07
Top Floor H glitch: basically, all the statues, when they become shootable, look the same and are out of place when destroyed. Looks ridiculous.

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As for the Confusion Zone... didn't I already say somewhere that nothing is as it seems?

Slopes are inverse or whatever the word is.
Basically...

\        /
 \      /
The left is how it looks like, but the right is how it actually is.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 03 March 2015, 21:07:13
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 03 March 2015, 16:47:52
The previous boss (plot spoiler) will have all weapons set to level 1, though another "all weapons to level 1" thing from the next bosses might be helpful (as, in order to get the ultimate weapon that replaces the Spur, plot boss will have to be beaten).
For the testing thing, I just set the starting point to Top Floor H (a statue room, which is currently full of bugs), and started with 80 HP, Misery's End, Arcanum, Acidic Bubble, Life Pot, Valkyrie Wings and Save Disk, and set flag 1450 for an elevator in Top Floor A.
Said elevator is slow, sadly, but at least it'll let you obtain three treasures (unconfirmed what they are) without losing the elevator. (Unless it goes off-screen.)
After Top Floor A, to the west/left, is Top Floor SC, where another plot boss is.
Then, the "Top Floor, Throne" area where the final boss fights will be.
Cool.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 03 March 2015, 16:47:52
Screenshot time!
Beware, there might be plot spoilers. If you don't care about plot spoilers, feel free to look at the spoilers, but know that anything related has to be posted in spoilers as well, please.

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Neat! :))
I must ask, though - what, exactly, is the Top Floor H glitch?

Also...
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Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 03 March 2015, 16:47:52
Oh, and the Top Floor theme is "Bloody Tears". (Dracula X version.)
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That'd be sweet.
If only wishes could come true in real life... and only for people with good intentions.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 03 March 2015, 16:47:52
Aside from very confusing?
Well, it will probably have some more bosses.
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Spoiler - how would that work? :o
Also, why confusing? Or is that the Confusion Zone?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 03 March 2015, 20:18:41
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 03 March 2015, 16:47:52
The previous boss (plot spoiler) will have all weapons set to level 1, though another "all weapons to level 1" thing from the next bosses might be helpful (as, in order to get the ultimate weapon that replaces the Spur, plot boss will have to be beaten).
For the testing thing, I just set the starting point to Top Floor H (a statue room, which is currently full of bugs), and started with 80 HP, Misery's End, Arcanum, Acidic Bubble, Life Pot, Valkyrie Wings and Save Disk, and set flag 1450 for an elevator in Top Floor A.
Said elevator is slow, sadly, but at least it'll let you obtain three treasures (unconfirmed what they are) without losing the elevator. (Unless it goes off-screen.)
After Top Floor A, to the west/left, is Top Floor SC, where another plot boss is.
Then, the "Top Floor, Throne" area where the final boss fights will be.


Wow. Very neat. The finale is going to be epic. If there are a $#!+ ton of obstacle/particle/bullets like in every Touhou or bullet-hell game in general I'll jump of the roof from happiness. [If someone ask how to fuse the 2 genres here is a video]
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Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 03 March 2015, 16:47:52
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That's going to be sick. Though I don't have an idea how it will fit storywise.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 03 March 2015, 16:47:52
Quote from: alfasketer on 03 March 2015, 14:10:34
Bonus area huh. Dreams do come true :D. About the Misery's End final boss It looks neat. Maybe a black wind will be good for the final boss so it can be more of a treat. And since ME is the most powerfull at level 1 most people will be using it.
The previous boss (plot spoiler) will have all weapons set to level 1, though another "all weapons to level 1" thing from the next bosses might be helpful (as, in order to get the ultimate weapon that replaces the Spur, plot boss will have to be beaten).
For the testing thing, I just set the starting point to Top Floor H (a statue room, which is currently full of bugs), and started with 80 HP, Misery's End, Arcanum, Acidic Bubble, Life Pot, Valkyrie Wings and Save Disk, and set flag 1450 for an elevator in Top Floor A.
Said elevator is slow, sadly, but at least it'll let you obtain three treasures (unconfirmed what they are) without losing the elevator. (Unless it goes off-screen.)
After Top Floor A, to the west/left, is Top Floor SC, where another plot boss is.
Then, the "Top Floor, Throne" area where the final boss fights will be.

Screenshot time!
Beware, there might be plot spoilers. If you don't care about plot spoilers, feel free to look at the spoilers, but know that anything related has to be posted in spoilers as well, please.

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Oh, and the Top Floor theme is "Bloody Tears". (Dracula X version.)
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Quote from: alfasketer on 03 March 2015, 14:10:34
And would you tell us what are your ideas for the bonus area? (Of course if you want to). :)
Aside from very confusing?
Well, it will probably have some more bosses.
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Quote from: alfasketer on 03 March 2015, 14:10:34
Also is there a chance that we get kind of a piece of artwork for the mod if there is any and if there is no problem about it.
I won't know about artwork; I am not very good at artwork.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 03 March 2015, 14:10:34
Bonus area huh. Dreams do come true :D. About the Misery's End final boss It looks neat. Maybe a black wind will be good for the final boss so it can be more of a treat. And since ME is the most powerfull at level 1 most people will be using it. And would you tell us what are your ideas for the bonus area? (Of course if you want to). :)
Also is there a chance that we get kind of a piece of artwork for the mod if there is any and if there is no problem about it.

EDIT: We are celebrating every new page so.

CELEBRATION TIME, C'MON
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 03 March 2015, 12:26:15
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Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 02 March 2015, 18:23:58
Hyped.
I think that say it all. :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 02 March 2015, 16:57:32
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-020315165354.png)

SERENITY
        vs
          ALEXIS

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I had a lot of trouble with getting Serenity to automatically run and jump to Alexis, but I managed it at long last!
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 01 March 2015, 15:10:05
Quote from: alfasketer on 01 March 2015, 11:48:22
1st. For the countdown (Like La-Mulana or every Metroid) let's say you have 5 minutes to go all the way back. If the timer runs out you're dead. But what's the purpose of the countup. I just can't think of an idea.
For all intents and purposes, it will be the same as in the original Cave Story.
If you beat Ballos, the timer stops and is recorded, for instance; depending on how fast it was, the title screen music changes.
The same would apply to Lunar Shadow - if you escape the castle (by leaving it entirely, which, before then, would result in a bad ending), the timer stops and is recorded, and the title screen music changes depending on how fast the castle was escaped. Only, unlike Cave Story, the Nikumaru (?) thing won't be in the inventory.

Of course, this would require ASM hacking, as the times required would be at least beyond five minutes. (I myself am uncertain of how long it'll take, due to the Top Floor and Tower areas not being completed yet.)

Quote from: alfasketer on 01 March 2015, 11:48:22
2nd. If it's a count up, I'm totally OK. But a ton of enemies or Falling blocks ( 1x1 a big quantity of them but dealing little damage as of the sort of 1-3) will help getting the RUN FOR YOUR LIFE feel.
It might be either; as of this post, I'm still uncertain, but if I do add a bonus area, it might have falling blocks.

3-HP runs will not have the falling blocks though; that would be too difficult, perhaps too difficult even for Lunaris. :o
Some progress on the maps.
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WARNING: screenshots may cause extreme hype. View with caution!
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 01 March 2015, 11:48:22
1st. For the countdown (Like La-Mulana or every Metroid) let's say you have 5 minutes to go all the way back. If the timer runs out you're dead. But what's the purpose of the countup. I just can't think of an idea.
2nd. If it's a count up, I'm totally OK. But a ton of enemies or Falling blocks ( 1x1 a big quantity of them but dealing little damage as of the sort of 1-3) will help getting the RUN FOR YOUR LIFE feel.

Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 01 March 2015, 10:22:17
It involves the Top Floor area. It's gonna be neat :)

What I am willing to say, however, is that after the final boss, you will have to escape the castle.
It's not fully planned yet, but I am working on it.

In the Castlevania games, the protagonists escape it automatically and that's the end.
In La-Mulana, while it's the same in the original (professor escapes via cutscene, place falls apart), the remake has a 5-minute timer in which the professor has to escape the ruins.

In Lunar Shadow, however, the castle, while falling apart, has to be escaped manually, but there's no countdown - on the contrary, there's going to be a count-up, so the faster you escape the castle, the less the time displayed will be.
Warp Doors will also be disabled (the castle magic is beyond use), and the only save point available is in the throne room of the final boss (or, for Dev Team members, in their inventory, which is a bit of a game-breaker) as the countdown begins after leaving the throne room.
Also, there will still be enemies, but the NPCs that lived will have escaped. (RUN RUN RUN)

I have no idea about falling blocks, though. I had trouble with the Sacred Grounds B2 area due to falling blocks. Lots of it.



Oh, and Level 2 Misery's End really brings an end to the second form of the final boss; total damage reached something in the 100s while it did nothing. (Those shockwaves are helpful still~)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 01 March 2015, 02:46:49
Apparently there is finally a little more progress now; I am not certain what exactly. Kim would not tell me...

Maybe she has added a Tower East boss or added the Central Tower maps?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 26 February 2015, 01:50:51
I may have to sprite a statue of myself, considering none exist :o

Hope I can actually sprite - it's better to try first, than to ask ;)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 25 February 2015, 17:30:06
With my return, I am happy to say that I will now help out once again with spriting. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 25 February 2015, 12:40:31
The ItemImage.bmp file's sprites for the Valkyrie Wings are from the owl in NpcEggs1.bmp - better to actually use the sprites (even if partially), than have them go to waste, I reckon.
Of course, the Valkyrie Wings/Wings (not like there are other wings in the mod) lack the owl since it would look ridiculous.

But yeah, a day off or a week, or who-knows-how-long.
The longest the break could be would be when Shane returns, though the shortest could be at most a day or a week.
I myself am uncertain at the moment, since I'm really worried about Shane at the moment.

I also wanted to ask him to sprite some of the Top Floor enemies.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 24 February 2015, 21:26:29
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 24 February 2015, 02:40:22
No progress for 24 February, and possibly none for the 25th either...
Well I guess a day off. Or 2. Kim I wanted to ask you what were the sprite file for the booster/V Wings. I was searching but I didn't found it. Also If anyone want's a $#!+ tone of spoilers

 
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Actually don't do that Kim will be mad.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 24 February 2015, 02:40:22
Wouldn't know about that, though it's probably going to be about as plot-spoilering as with Valkyrie.

Valerie won't be a boss at all, despite being with the witches as of posting this.

On a side note, apparently both Valerie and Valkyrie could be shortened to "Val". :o

EDIT:
No progress for 24 February, and possibly none for the 25th either...
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 22 February 2015, 21:48:18
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 22 February 2015, 21:41:02
Because plot spoilers.
Looks like it's going to be something like Bioshock Infinite's plot twist. Nice. Can wait for my mind to be +[©*€d up again :D.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 22 February 2015, 21:41:02
Because plot spoilers.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 22 February 2015, 20:03:41
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 22 February 2015, 19:32:24
She's fully blind, though.


Why T_T.

Edit: New page Wo-Ho
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 22 February 2015, 19:32:24
Progress:
Valerie makes her appearance in Servant Quarters P if the player doesn't give Shinica a Life Pot (as Shinica is injured at that point and needs rest).
She's fully blind, though.

Also Serenity has slightly more dialogue now.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 22 February 2015, 12:57:02
Actually, still two at the moment, though I might consider adding a third :)

If Alexis is defeated, for instance, but Xyz still isn't, perhaps have a third form after his second form ("Xyz EX")? Who knows~
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 22 February 2015, 11:16:53
More Xyz forms. Great.
Do we have a chance to get an Chaos Xyz :D  ;D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 22 February 2015, 10:49:42
Quote from: Dianke on 21 February 2015, 00:50:52
You're always worried about him, Kim, even if you have an unrequited crush on the poor guy.
(Of course, he bought it on himself for using a photo of himself as an avatar at his own forums.)
Guilty :-[

Quote from: Dianke on 21 February 2015, 00:50:52
In any event, I'm impressed with the progress made thus far. I'll check the mod out when I get back from this boring vacation...
Got it.
Progress update:
Shinica and Valerie now have face pics! Serenity and Ataraxis (a new character who hides in Top Floor SC, which cannot be accessed legitimately as of this post) both have more face pics.
If you leave Xyz for later, rather than beat it before Sycor, then:
Also, Xyz will have one extra possible cutscene (at the moment).
In the current release, Xyz's room has four possible cutscenes, so it's safe to say the next release will have five cutscenes.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 21 February 2015, 00:50:52
You're always worried about him, Kim, even if you have an unrequited crush on the poor guy.
(Of course, he bought it on himself for using a photo of himself as an avatar at his own forums.)

In any event, I'm impressed with the progress made thus far. I'll check the mod out when I get back from this boring vacation...

Also, mobile version has no avatars. :(
It's creepy.
Without pasta.
Or anything related to it.


Post made from mobile at 00:50 on 21 February 2015
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 21 February 2015, 00:15:12
By all means, celebrate.

I'm just worried about Shane...
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 20 February 2015, 19:57:03
Will the cake will be a regen item (regening some health around 5-10 hp) in big quantities throughout the game?

Also, won't we celebrate ver 3 official release here?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 20 February 2015, 16:55:31
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 21:02:03
As you wish, Serena. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1011651.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1011651.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1011651.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1011651.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1011651.png)
Have five of them!
(They're based off of one of the Cave Story Beta screenshots at the Tribute Site, technically.)
THE CAKE WAS REAL?! :o
I honestly thought you were just joking about the cake...

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 21:02:03
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1041230.png)
That's the second-last room of the Top Floor (where the second-last boss is).
I almost didn't survive, and I didn't use the Save Disk or Life Pot items I started out with when testing that. :o
Maybe have the boss teleport around between the battles?
That'd be evil...

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 21:02:03
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205615-1051798.png)
80 starting HP, with Acidic Bubble, Arcanum and Misery's End. (Need to write something on that for the Library.)
Due to the size of the room, where he ends up is hard to figure out. He might teleport close to you, or not.
And no, that's not the master. That's the Doctor. (The Master will appear when I finish his sprites.)
And will be evil.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 21:02:03
His other forms are not done yet, either. (But I died five times to the last one.)
Those shockwaves helped, really; the bones give XP and hearts so it's easier than Ballos was :)
Wow, that tough huh :o

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 21:02:03
Also, in-universe there's a book series of which the total amount of pages are equal to 33 411 pages.
And that's for ten books.

What.
Yeah. WHAT.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 21:38:43
Basically, it's about a young girl who goes on adventures doing various things. Like "Ginny Anderson and the Strawberry Crisis". And various other ridiculous titles.
The first book has about 1020 pages. And it keeps on getting more - the final book has 10696 pages ("Ginny Anderson and the End of Existence"). The author, R.K. José-von Karma, is somehow a trillionaire (if not richer than that).
Serenity finds the books boring, though. (The plots are ridiculous - seriously, trying to stop a madman from eating all the strawberries which would otherwise lead to some kind of crisis?)
I see what you did there

"Ginny Anderson and the xxxx"
"Harry Potter and the xxxx"
The naming formats are similar.
Then, there's the "Strawberry Crisis" thing, which is also the name of a Touhou song.

Also, the author of the Harry Potter series is a J.K. Rowling.
The author of the Ginny Anderson series is a R.K. José-von Karma (hyphenated last names? Really?).
All three have "JKR" in the names.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 21:38:43
There will also be books by Lunadine "Luna" von Terra (who appears in the mod) and books related to Invidia (in beta 2 of version 3) and Arcanum (newly added) as well as Misery's End (currently being added).
Cool. So, Luna and Shinica's last name would be "von Terra".

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 21:38:43
I doubt Bloody Tears will be in version 3, though I'll just remain patient. :)
Honestly, how do you manage to stay patient this long? :o
I don't know when you requested it, but you're more patient than Dianke, as far as I know. (She's not a patient person, usually.)

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 21:38:43
The second-last boss starts off easy (50 HP for 7 forms, all of which are the same) and is similar to the maids from the Servant Quarters. Easy to dodge, and so on; those spikes and blocks above them aren't there.
Then, after that, the boss teleports away and reappears on-screen and the final form (300 HP) will be battled. (I have a lot of trouble with the last form, if only due to using only a level 1 Misery's End and nothing else.)
Sounds interestingly... evil.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 23:20:39
Nope. At least, not necessarily.

While Version 4 will add the Tower and Top Floor areas, there might be a Version 5 depending on the following:
  • Bugs we may have missed (it's possible, especially with Xyz having various cutscenes now)
  • The addition of a bonus dungeon or not (I'm still thinking about it, though if one is added it will be called the "Confusion Zone", and its goal would be to be as perplexing as possible and generally make life hellish for the player because the Confusion Zone is evil like that)
  • Other stuff and updates due to the prequel Lunar Shadow Zero or the sequel Lunar Shadow X
  • The possibility also exists that version 4 will only add the Tower area, or the Top Floor area, and a version 5 be released to add the other area not included. Of course, as Azehr is a mandatory boss, the true final boss would be in version 5 in both cases of this possibility. I'm not sure just yet, anyway.
  • Version 4 will also be released far from February, most likely - it depends on when those song requests are finished, really.
- Bugs are everything we do not want
- Uh... that'll be frustrating
- Oh, my.
- So are all bosses mandatory?
- I see...

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 19 February 2015, 23:20:39
Anyway, progress is such that the mod can be officially released as version 3a. (Just have to upload it.)
Hopefully there won't be any bugs to encounter; though, if there are, well, they can be fixed.

(I may or may not have forgotten a few bugs. If I did just shout at me through a megaphone or something.)
Won't that hurt? :P
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 19 February 2015, 23:20:39
Nope. At least, not necessarily.

While Version 4 will add the Tower and Top Floor areas, there might be a Version 5 depending on the following:
Anyway, progress is such that the mod can be officially released as version 3a. (Just have to upload it.)
Hopefully there won't be any bugs to encounter; though, if there are, well, they can be fixed.

(I may or may not have forgotten a few bugs. If I did just shout at me through a megaphone or something.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 19 February 2015, 22:05:00
Well one thing is using lv 1 ME (for short) a whole another thing is lv 3 :D
But that what you're doing is good. It shows that minimal item runs are possible.
(Altough it will be a minimal item run if you have CM only which is … discouraging :P)
Looks like ver 4 will be the last ver Imo. Am i right?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 19 February 2015, 21:38:43
Basically, it's about a young girl who goes on adventures doing various things. Like "Ginny Anderson and the Strawberry Crisis". And various other ridiculous titles.
The first book has about 1020 pages. And it keeps on getting more - the final book has 10696 pages ("Ginny Anderson and the End of Existence"). The author, R.K. José-von Karma, is somehow a trillionaire (if not richer than that).
Serenity finds the books boring, though. (The plots are ridiculous - seriously, trying to stop a madman from eating all the strawberries which would otherwise lead to some kind of crisis?)

There will also be books by Lunadine "Luna" von Terra (who appears in the mod) and books related to Invidia (in beta 2 of version 3) and Arcanum (newly added) as well as Misery's End (currently being added).

I doubt Bloody Tears will be in version 3, though I'll just remain patient. :)

The second-last boss starts off easy (50 HP for 7 forms, all of which are the same) and is similar to the maids from the Servant Quarters. Easy to dodge, and so on; those spikes and blocks above them aren't there.
Then, after that, the boss teleports away and reappears on-screen and the final form (300 HP) will be battled. (I have a lot of trouble with the last form, if only due to using only a level 1 Misery's End and nothing else.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 19 February 2015, 21:19:34
So the second last boss will be hard as firetruck. (No seriously, try to blow up some of them. Rocket or Granade Lauchers are basically using ~ and cv_cheat 1) Well almost everyone will save their live pot so their inventory can be heavier so why not make the boss even more harder so they can make their inventory lighter :P

Also what is the book series all about. I mean 10 books, man this beated Harry Potter so bad that Pottermore is crying bloody tears all over again. (I should stop watching over-sarcastic comedies.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 19 February 2015, 21:02:03
As you wish, Serena. (http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1011651.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1011651.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1011651.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1011651.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1011651.png)
Have five of them!
(They're based off of one of the Cave Story Beta screenshots at the Tribute Site, technically.)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205614-1041230.png)
That's the second-last room of the Top Floor (where the second-last boss is).
I almost didn't survive, and I didn't use the Save Disk or Life Pot items I started out with when testing that. :o
Maybe have the boss teleport around between the battles?

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-190215205615-1051798.png)
80 starting HP, with Acidic Bubble, Arcanum and Misery's End. (Need to write something on that for the Library.)
Due to the size of the room, where he ends up is hard to figure out. He might teleport close to you, or not.
And no, that's not the master. That's the Doctor. (The Master will appear when I finish his sprites.)

His other forms are not done yet, either. (But I died five times to the last one.)
Those shockwaves helped, really; the bones give XP and hearts so it's easier than Ballos was :)



Also, in-universe there's a book series of which the total amount of pages are equal to 33 411 pages.
And that's for ten books.

What.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 19 February 2015, 19:42:13
PICS OR IT AIN'T TRUE ABOUT THE CAKE
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 19 February 2015, 16:28:15
For once, the cake won't be a lie, and yes, the beach outfit will look a bit different. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 18 February 2015, 22:58:33
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 21:58:39
The Top Floor is dummied out, yes. Just accessible via cheating. :o
Ah.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 21:58:39
Alexis is not the true final boss.

Also, in vanilla Cave Story, Ballos's max HP totals to 3808 (throughout all his forms). The master's is 3108 (as of posting this, since it might change).
Cool.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 21:58:39
Also, there will be cake in a future version, as soon as I sprite it. (Here goes~!)
So...
It won't be a lie? :o


Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 21:58:39
Oh, and Xyz's forms? Those will now rely on how long you've postponed to battle Xyz.
If you beat the Ghost Dragon Sisters first and then battle Xyz, you'll get his second form (and a "level 1" reset courtesy of Shinica).

(Thus, his second form's attacks will be boosted.)

Also, depending on when you fight Xyz, dialogues change. However, to get deeper into the Top Floor, you have to beat Xyz, Sycor, Irving, Micren, Grialdyn and Valkyrie (and probably Azehr as well).
Interesting.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 21:58:39
Azehr and Alexis both "guard" the last starting room treasury, as well - it's empty in version 3, but won't be when Azehr and Alexis's boss fights are added.
I see.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 21:58:39
And the beach outfit looks different.
Really? :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 18 February 2015, 21:58:39
The Top Floor is dummied out, yes. Just accessible via cheating. :o

Alexis is not the true final boss.

Also, in vanilla Cave Story, Ballos's max HP totals to 3808 (throughout all his forms). The master's is 3108 (as of posting this, since it might change).

Also, there will be cake in a future version, as soon as I sprite it. (Here goes~!)


Oh, and Xyz's forms? Those will now rely on how long you've postponed to battle Xyz.
If you beat the Ghost Dragon Sisters first and then battle Xyz, you'll get his second form (and a "level 1" reset courtesy of Shinica).

(Thus, his second form's attacks will be boosted.)

Also, depending on when you fight Xyz, dialogues change. However, to get deeper into the Top Floor, you have to beat Xyz, Sycor, Irving, Micren, Grialdyn and Valkyrie (and probably Azehr as well).

Azehr and Alexis both "guard" the last starting room treasury, as well - it's empty in version 3, but won't be when Azehr and Alexis's boss fights are added.


And the beach outfit looks different.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Sonja on 18 February 2015, 19:55:55
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 19:42:28
So far, it looks like I'll have enough space for a bonus dungeon after all, but in the event that there is one, it will most likely be after the Top Floor area is finished.
If I add the bonus dungeon, well, I have about eight maps for that. Ten, maybe. I don't know, myself...
That'd be awesome! :)

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 19:42:28
Anyway, while I'm currently adding the Tower and Top Floor maps, they won't be accessible (or fully complete either) - those are just to make certain that I don't accidentally use those maps for other purposes (like cutscenes). You can expect water in the Top Floor area.

Also, a girl named Valerie will probably appear in the mod, in the Top Floor.
So they're dummied out?


Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 19:42:28
Lastly, just to get everyone hyped up again~ >:3
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-180215192227-99979.png)
* it's not very effective *

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 19:42:28
Dianke made modifications to the tileset of the Sacred Grounds last year, but never used it in Obscuro Lumen Venenum Aeris. So, it's now used in Lunar Shadow (with her permission).
I almost forgot she made one Cave Story mod before she quit due to various reasons :o

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 19:42:28
Bosses: aside from the Master and the Witches, there's also a few other bosses. Who are they? A secret, though one of them will have an Aura as well.

One of these bosses have, at the moment, 300 HP + (50 × 7) HP = 650 HP
The combined HP of the Witches are currently 700 HP, though their HP will have to be changed slightly.
The Master... let's see. He has about 3108 HP (instead of 3808 HP) as of posting this.
Alexis has, for comparison, 1000 HP (despite being older than him).
Wait...
Alexis has less HP than her brother, yet she's older.
So, this means she might be the true final boss if that's a thing that happens.

Also, why "instead of 3808 HP"? :o

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 18 February 2015, 19:42:28
...

Was the cake a lie?
There wasn't any to begin with, unless you're secretly planning on adding some. (Would be awesome.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 18 February 2015, 19:48:47
Wow. That's great. Bonus dungeon.

And the cake was definetly a lie.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 18 February 2015, 19:42:28
So far, it looks like I'll have enough space for a bonus dungeon after all, but in the event that there is one, it will most likely be after the Top Floor area is finished.
If I add the bonus dungeon, well, I have about eight maps for that. Ten, maybe. I don't know, myself...


Anyway, while I'm currently adding the Tower and Top Floor maps, they won't be accessible (or fully complete either) - those are just to make certain that I don't accidentally use those maps for other purposes (like cutscenes). You can expect water in the Top Floor area.

Also, a girl named Valerie will probably appear in the mod, in the Top Floor.


Lastly, just to get everyone hyped up again~ >:3
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-180215192227-99979.png)

Dianke made modifications to the tileset of the Sacred Grounds last year, but never used it in Obscuro Lumen Venenum Aeris. So, it's now used in Lunar Shadow (with her permission).


Bosses: aside from the Master and the Witches, there's also a few other bosses. Who are they? A secret, though one of them will have an Aura as well.

One of these bosses have, at the moment, 300 HP + (50 × 7) HP = 650 HP
The combined HP of the Witches are currently 700 HP, though their HP will have to be changed slightly.
The Master... let's see. He has about 3108 HP (instead of 3808 HP) as of posting this.
Alexis has, for comparison, 1000 HP (despite being older than him).

...

Was the cake a lie?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 17 February 2015, 15:48:10
All right. That's cool.:)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 17 February 2015, 14:40:39
Quote from: alfasketer on 17 February 2015, 14:12:53
Well that's going to be a big pain in the @$$  :D.
With more than one weapon, it'll probably go easier. (And more HP, and not taking damage which is inevitable given the small room.)

(click to show/hide)
The sprite sheet of the boss in that folder is only used temporarily until I have a special sprite sheet made for this boss.
(There is no crystal, thankfully. That boss needs no crystal for her ultimate form.)

Also, the boss won't be available in version 3; it's just while I'm waiting for the beta testers to complete beta testing (however long that may take; being patient is important).

Her first "six" forms are basically the same AI as those bots in the Servant Quarters - walk around, shoot, walk around, shoot some more, etc. and as those bots have 50 HP, the boss's first "six" forms all have 50 HP as well. (The boss herself gets tired of it after a while.)

Quote from: alfasketer on 17 February 2015, 14:12:53
Also do you have plans for a hell-like level where at the end of it you have a really really hard boss which drops the most powerfull weapon in the game (i guess spur alternative).
I'm afraid not. The current plans for the entire Castle will most likely require a lot of maps (of which the maximum is 101 since adding more maps after that breaks the game, which, if I'm not mistaken, requires ASM hacking).

It's because of that, which I scrapped some of the Servant Quarters' rooms. Originally, it would use 23 maps, but now it uses only 12 rooms.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 17 February 2015, 14:12:53
Well that's going to be a big pain in the @$$  :D.

Also do you have plans for a hell-like level where at the end of it you have a really really hard boss which drops the most powerfull weapon in the game (i guess spur alternative).
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 17 February 2015, 14:00:34
I'm a bit bored, so I'm just playing around now.

One of the bosses will be just before the Master's boss fight, and she's a tough one.
Her first six forms all have 50 HP each, but they act the same. (So basically, it's just one form.)
Her second form is tougher, and there's spikes as well. (Unless I'm mistaken, these spikes deal only two points of damage, instead of five or ten.)

The second form has no sprites yet, so it's using old sprites at the moment; I'll probably post a pic or two of the boss later this year.


Funnily enough, with the Level 1 Misery's End and 40 max HP, I barely survived (though there was no spikes) at 7 HP. :o
Serenity must've been lucky.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 15 February 2015, 17:45:15
Quote from: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 14:12:49
So Valkirie boss fight will be the landmark of ver 3 as far as i see it. Phase 2 is still not shown which makes ne more hype. I mean you wouldn't keep it secret if it wasn't something totally cool and mindblowing.
Actually, I'm keeping the second form secret because of spoiler reasons that will be learned of in version 3 beta 2.

Quote from: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 14:12:49
So Arcania is a machine gun with a snake effect? Well that is going to be OP :D. But getting it later in the game should do it justice.
Only at level 3 does it go through walls, but it's handy for taking out various monsters on the other side if they're powerful and you have low HP (3 HP, for instance). :)
Of course, getting it might be puzzling, but statues give hints at times.

Quote from: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 14:12:49
About that Kim=Castle Master thing i Desided to make a joke and pu thought to it. :D that's it.
An interesting joke :))

Quote from: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 14:12:49
Beta 2 is coming out. Nice. Sadly I won't be able to play it all at once dueing the week due to parents -_- (I'm 15 and they are still watch over me so... yeah) I count onLunaris to cover the most of it while I'll try to break it every way possible. I guess I'll need half to full week to test it all out. :( .My hope is that it can read the saves from ver 3 so I can jump directly in the new thing in an hour or so. Sill excited, can't wait to play. :)
It's okay; I kinda need a break to rest from all the late nights I've spent working on the second beta. :)
Take as long as you need to~

Quote from: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 15:07:56
I'll handle it as best as I possibly can, from the very beginning :)
Which is sort-of recommended as a result of new stuff, but having the Ultimate Doukutsu Program ready will be helpful as well.
Some save points were moved around as some of the rooms were made larger - for example, Reservoir SP is now 42×16 tiles, due to the Warp Doors added.

Quote from: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 15:07:56
Though, to be honest, I'm surprised; I kinda thought you were a year older than me. (I'm also 15.)
Quote from: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 17:12:43
Well I thought that YOU are older than me. :D Well that's funny. :D
You both turn 16 this year, while Dia turns 17 in June, and Shane and I turn 19.
Shane's birthday is on the 25th of this month, actually.

Quote from: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 15:07:56
@ Kim:
- Wait, Valkyrie's second form... does nothing? That's boring. :o Or is there something we don't know?
Currently, all it does is float and take damage and wish to reach 0 HP so that it can stop suffering.

Quote from: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 15:07:56
- Serenity's portraits (I prefer to call them that rather than "face pics") look okay. :)
Thank you.

Quote from: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 15:07:56
- Level 3 Arcanum is weaker than level 2 in terms of damage, huh? Yet it's still unique. Interesting :)
Yeah, should be helpful for 3-HP runs. Perhaps. ;)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 17:12:43
Quote from: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 15:07:56
I'll handle it as best as I possibly can, from the very beginning :)
Though, to be honest, I'm surprised; I kinda thought you were a year older than me. (I'm also 15.)
Well I thought that YOU are older than me. :D Well that's funny. :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 15:07:56
I'll handle it as best as I possibly can, from the very beginning :)
Though, to be honest, I'm surprised; I kinda thought you were a year older than me. (I'm also 15.)


@ Kim:
- Wait, Valkyrie's second form... does nothing? That's boring. :o Or is there something we don't know?
- Serenity's portraits (I prefer to call them that rather than "face pics") look okay. :)
- Level 3 Arcanum is weaker than level 2 in terms of damage, huh? Yet it's still unique. Interesting :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 14:12:49
So Valkirie boss fight will be the landmark of ver 3 as far as i see it. Phase 2 is still not shown which makes ne more hype. I mean you wouldn't keep it secret if it wasn't something totally cool and mindblowing.
So Arcania is a machine gun with a snake effect? Well that is going to be OP :D. But getting it later in the game should do it justice.
About that Kim=Castle Master thing i Desided to make a joke and pu thought to it. :D that's it.
Beta 2 is coming out. Nice. Sadly I won't be able to play it all at once dueing the week due to parents -_- (I'm 15 and they are still watch over me so... yeah) I count onLunaris to cover the most of it while I'll try to break it every way possible. I guess I'll need half to full week to test it all out. :( .My hope is that it can read the saves from ver 3 so I can jump directly in the new thing in an hour or so. Sill excited, can't wait to play. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 15 February 2015, 13:35:07
Quote from: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 01:30:43
7. I guess that makes sense. Otherwise you'll have to fix every little bug that you see, even if it's barely a minute of testing.
Exactly.

As of now, I'm working on those areas :))

Quote from: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 01:30:43
8. Arcanum? That name sounds familiar... looks unique, though :)
9. Wait, with a Life Capsule and school uniform? Uh...
Yeah, the weapon name comes from the word "arcanum" (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/arcanum).
The secret of Arcanum is that...
(click to show/hide)
And yes. Maximum life currently possible seems to be nearing 60... not sure, though; I'll get around to finding the exact value when I'm done with the new Warp Doors~

Quote from: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 01:30:43
3. Uh... not sure that death traps are a good idea, but whatever...
Quote from: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 11:51:51
So about the terminal i suggest placing a save point nearby, because some people can rage over-the-top from those death traps.
Already did :)
It's in the room where Serenity first meets Alexis, though it only appears after the "boss fight".
It's more of a playable cutscene, though; you can't open your inventory if you stand on the ground (due to H/V triggers and several frames of nothing happening). This also seems to render you invulnerable from most things (things like spikes and Monster X driving over the player character still deal damage)
Basically, if you stand on one of the higher blocks before Alexis says "Scared yet?", and remain there afterwards, you can open your inventory and take damage from Alexis's attacks and such.

Said room (Servant Quarters P) leads to Servant Quarters K (the Terminal Room) and Servant Quarters C (which is new and can be accessed from the Library part).
You gain access to another save room (Servant Quarters RR) after opening the Lunar Gate (castle emblem block), and said save room has a Warp Door to the Entrance as well.
After opening the Void Gate (empty block), you can access a new room (Servant Quarters Y), where you obtain Arcanum.
After opening the Bubble Gate (... Acidic Bubble block), you can go to Servant Quarters DI ("Dimensional Interstice", though I don't know why that's called so).

I actually have a few pics uploaded a few minutes ago, regarding the DI area of the Servant Quarters.

(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)

Quote from: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 11:51:51
Arcanum looks neat and as you said I hope it won't end up just a resprite.
It's slightly weaker than the normal Machine Gun, as of a few hours ago:
- Level 1: 1 damage, 3 hits (for a total of 3 damage), has a range of 15.
- Level 2: 3 damage, 2 hits (for a total of 6 damage), has a range of 20.
- Level 3: 5 damage, 1 hit (for a total of 5 damage), has a range of 25, if aimed downwards, you can basically fly - Eron won't mind if you use that to gather the unobtainable Life Capsules, at the moment, though she should probably say something about using a weapon to fly. Oh, and it ignores solid tiles.

Not sure how the range works, though I would assume it's the amount of frames the bullet will remain on screen.
Anyway.

Quote from: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 11:51:51
Also you said that the castle master likes puzzles and so he placed the puzzles. But practicly you placed the puzzles. Kim, are you the castle master.  :o Is that the plot twist.
And you wanted to see how far the player can get into the castle so you can see is the player good or not :o . And you said that you'll destroy the world unless someone stopes you. That means you want to see if the mod is too hard and noone can reach the master (or you) or noone caring about the world(or the mod) thus making you abadoning it or destroing it. :o You are the master Kim. :o


I hope that's legit as hell :D
Nice guess, but sadly, nope, I'm not the master~
The Castle Master's true intentions will be revealed later on.


Interesting guess, though :)



When I'm done with the Warp Doors being added, I'll most likely release Version 3 Beta 2 for the Beta Testers to, well, beta test.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 15 February 2015, 11:51:51
So about the terminal i suggest placing a save point nearby, because some people can rage over-the-top from those death traps. Arcanum looks neat and as you said I hope it won't end up just a resprite.

Also you said that the castle master likes puzzles and so he placed the puzzles. But practicly you placed the puzzles. Kim, are you the castle master.  :o Is that the plot twist.
And you wanted to see how far the player can get into the castle so you can see is the player good or not :o . And you said that you'll destroy the world unless someone stopes you. That means you want to see if the mod is too hard and noone can reach the master (or you) or noone caring about the world(or the mod) thus making you abadoning it or destroing it. :o You are the master Kim. :o


I hope that's legit as hell :D
And a multi-quote statue would be great. :)

Edit:.First new page from me.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 15 February 2015, 01:30:43
1. Ah.
2. Okay.
3. Uh... not sure that death traps are a good idea, but whatever...
4. Cool.
5. No I won't stop asking and sweet =3
6. :o

7. I guess that makes sense. Otherwise you'll have to fix every little bug that you see, even if it's barely a minute of testing.
8. Arcanum? That name sounds familiar... looks unique, though :)
9. Wait, with a Life Capsule and school uniform? Uh...
10. Uh what? A statue with the inscription changing? That's... weird.


The next post will probably be on a new page...
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 14 February 2015, 23:41:50
- If you mean beating her with the Crescent Moon, well... I cheated there (getting the Spur) if only to hurriedly test that cutscene.
- Patience will let you listen to it. :P
- Don't worry; each Key Treasure Chest has a hint and stuff. Though, the Servant Quarters K area is evil - if you use the wrong key on a terminal, it creates a deathtrap. How do you know what key fits? The symbols. (The castle master really likes those kinds of puzzles. Hence, a save point in the previous room.)
(click to show/hide)
- I will consider doing so after progress on the Servant Quarters is almost complete.
- ... you won't quit asking if there's a Sycor rematch, will you?
(click to show/hide)
- I wonder that, myself.

Anyway, I decided to postpone work on the Warp Door areas that are not on the Castle Entrance, at least until all the Warp Doors for version 3 are finished.
That way, I can just copy-and-paste the scripts for the Warp Doors, which saves me time. (And then figure out where they lead to, etc. so that'll take a while).

Oh, by the way, you can now obtain a new weapon: the Arcanum.
It works like the Machine Gun from vanilla Cave Story, however; at the moment there's nothing uniquely different about it just yet.

Level 1:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-140215233545-85868.png)

Level 2:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-140215233545-861189.png)

Level 3:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-140215233545-872370.png)

Also, you get the Arcanum in a room in the Servant Quarters, as well as being able to get a +3 Life Capsule and a school uniform.
(Apparently, the master decided school uniforms should be guarded by statues and deathtraps.)



Not to mention the ridiculous statue of some ancestor guy in the Servant Quarters area; it changes its text each time you look at it, and after the sixth (?) time it begins all over again.
(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 14 February 2015, 14:42:57
Pre-edit:
That looks sweet... and you took her on with just the Crescent Moon. :o
I'd like to listen to Lunar Song :3
First edit:
Thank you for mentioning it; now I know not to click that link. (Not going to have another twenty-something hours spent on TV Tropes. D: )
Second edit:
* blank stare *
Seriously? A sentient weapon that used to be a powerful being? One who (unwillingly or willingly?) changed herself into a gun that fires lightning bolts at targets?
I... have to see this to believe it. Only then will I know if I find it neat or not.

Also, key-hunting puzzles? Urgh. Key-hunting puzzles are as good as Lunarisbane ;-;
Third edit:
Please add it to version 3, even if only a small portion :<
Is that boss a Sycor rematch? =3

Also, I wonder how a combo of Moonsong and Balcony would sound like? :o
Both are peaceful, serene... and awesome. In my opinion.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 14 February 2015, 14:04:24
Wow, That's really neat. Good work.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 14 February 2015, 01:37:31
Don't worry about it; knowing Shane, he'd probably also think the same.

Anyway, more screenshots of PROGRESS having taken place.

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-140215012235-801023.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-140215012235-81213.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-140215012236-84932.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-140215012235-82676.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-140215012236-831344.png)

This boss fight is intended to be impossible to win, as it's part of a cutscene.
However, one might say I thought of everything (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDevTeamThinksOfEverything) in regards to this boss fight: in the event that the player somehow wins, a special dialogue will appear (while the last picture is of that, I forgot to make certain there was text on-screen). Of course, she has 1000 HP (apparently) so that's easier said than done to get that...

Also, this is actually the first time Shinica, Luna or Alexis's names are mentioned in the mod, and the second time (I think) that Serenity's name is mentioned -- yes, somehow Alexis knows what it is.
And something about Serenity's five-year old cousin Valerie being at the castle, I dunno. All I know is, a plot twist I mentioned way back is not even in the mod just yet.
It will, however, appear once Alexis is battled for real at the Tower area. (When she has that aura of hers.)

Basically, she's battling you without an aura, and you could possibly win if you are powerful enough to do so (and manage to survive).
Those blocks held up by the pillar? Those are solid... but only to the player, so you can stand on it, but NPCs cannot.

Also, Shinica has her own theme at that point ("Lunar Song", a modification of "Moonsong").


EDIT:
Eep. I've started linking to TV Tropes...
My life has been ruined :o


EDIT EDIT:
Either Newerthians enjoy making up ridiculous myths and legends, or Nemesis and Invidia are actually sentient guns who used to be goddesses or something (as the descriptions state "lightning of the goddess").

Three keys have been added, so in order to reach Valkyrie, one requires to defeat Micren (to get the Bubble Key), Grialdyn (to get the Void Key) and open the two empty treasure chests in the castle (to allow one to obtain the Lunar Key).

Also, at least for now, Invidia teleports itself away in the Reservoir boss fight (out of fear of the boss corrupting it and making it evil). Being a sentient gun who used to be a goddess (according to mythology anyways), it might make sense to some people.
This will most likely be temporary, unless people find it neat and all.
But they'll probably find it ridiculous.

EDIT EDIT EDIT:
A small part of the Eastern Tower can now be accessed, and a Warp Door to the Entrance (and back) is a thing.
Central Tower will most likely take a while, if I do add it to version 3...

But anyway! The entry point (Tower RR / "Right Reservoir") has a boss fight, but unless you cheat, you can't access it yet. (Because it's literally going to be impossible to reach due to deathtraps.)
And beating the boss will result in weirdness ensuing. This boss is intended to be a bonus rematch boss. The reward... is also inaccessible, but opening it creates a deathtrap. (Unless you beat the boss, when the boss is fully finished.)
This boss will work similarly to a boss in a previous area, BUT also harder due to the deathtraps and lack of platforms to stand on.

There's also the Tower ES area, with monsters, and the Tower DL area, with the Warp Door. And monsters.

While the Western Tower has Moonsong, the Eastern Tower has Balcony.
I'm not sure what song would be used for the Central Tower, though... maybe a combination of the two songs? :o

... I really have to focus on the other Warp Rooms like the ones in the Laboratory and Reservoir areas...
Can't postpone those any longer, now, can I?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 20:00:08
OK I'm dumb. I thought you made sycor more powerfuul, not Crescent Moon.
       _______r
-_- I______  \
                   \_\ Kill me.
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 13 February 2015, 19:17:19
Or did I misunderstand the question?
You understood me right. It's OK, I understand.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 13 February 2015, 19:17:19
Quote from: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 18:22:03
So Sycor is more powerfull. Great. That will be bigger challenge even with lv3 Invidia.
Actually, Sycor is unchanged.
I take it you refer to this pic?
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-130215152825-781531.png)

That's been there since the original Cave Story, actually. There are nine Crescent Moon bullets visible, though.
In other words, it's more like an Exploding Moon than a Crescent Moon.

Quote from: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 18:22:03
Edit: Is it possible to have a original boss in game. Just asking.
It would, although that requires ASM hacking (which I'm horrible at).
It'd probably require Booster's Lab-Hackinator usage (which is how the Crescent Moon was modified and the various costumes were possible).
Not to mention I have no idea who could work on the boss in the first place to make it entirely unique.

Or did I misunderstand the question?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 13 February 2015, 18:57:18
Is it just me... or is the Crescent moon bullets everywhere in that second pic with Sycor? :o

Quote from: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 18:22:03
So Sycor is more powerfull. Great. That will be bigger challenge even with lv3 Invidia.
How so? :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 18:22:03
So Sycor is more powerfull. Great. That will be bigger challenge even with lv3 Invidia.

Edit: Is it possible to have a original boss in game. Just asking.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 13 February 2015, 15:34:18
The Crescent Moon is now mandatory.
(click to show/hide)
(click to show/hide)

Also, now you can't reach a situation where you have to fight a boss without any weapons (like was possible before in the Reservoir).
Not sure about how Invidia can be taken away, though... (still?!)

Perhaps it will be needed in order to open a door in the Reservoir area, and stolen while the player is off-screen?

[/Invidia-removal-blocked]
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 13 February 2015, 14:14:41
I like the possible future :)

Also, that tile set is awesome.

EDIT:
I'm just guessing here, but the Japanese for "Lunar Shadow" would probably be:
月の影
Tsuki no kage

In case you feel like adding Japanese to the mod. (Going by those sprites...)

Wiktionary says that "shadow (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/shadow)" is 影 (kage), but nothing on "lunar".
So I checked for "moon (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/moon)", which would be 衛星 (eisei).
I think の (no) would be between those, though, as a noun modifier? This page (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%E3%81%AE#Japanese) perplexes me, to be honest.

So... "Eisei no Kage"? 衛星の影

...

Okay, I'm confused now D8
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 13 February 2015, 13:36:46
Quote from: Lunaris on 13 February 2015, 01:15:03
Sycor? :3
Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know just yet. :P

Quote from: Lunaris on 13 February 2015, 01:15:03
School uniforms? Noooo D:
YES >:3

Quote from: Lunaris on 13 February 2015, 01:15:03
Wait, so fishnets are actually going to make an appearance of sort? :o
Sort of - it's impossible to actually outright sprite those, due to limitations, so it's just a light color (pink/orange/not-really-sure).

Quote from: Lunaris on 13 February 2015, 01:15:03
Can I ask what you mean?
Basically, the master of the castle is a total sociopath. A madman, a maniac.

Quote from: Lunaris on 13 February 2015, 01:15:03
Say, you wanted to figure out what tileset you could use for the Top Floor, right? Why not the original Cave Story's Sacred Grounds tileset?
Could work. :o

Quote from: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 06:01:18
School Serenity is, well schoolish. Damn it I can't special for that outfit. If it has any special abilities the first coming to mind is knowledge and maybe having more ammo for the Acidic Buble since it's a spell and more knowledge means better spells right?
Possibly, though spells are forbidden on Tirahnys, and so illegal that just knowing a spell is punishable (except for elves).
I've updated the Tirahnys thread with a few laws; I wanted at least five laws before I started posting them.

Basically, Serenity is breaking the law in order to save the entire planet.
Which will most likely turn out to be for the better of Tirahnys, as it would force the corrupt Dark Elf president to acknowledge that she knew magic in order to save Newerth, and killing a heroine would most likely result in a rebellion.
(click to show/hide)

Quote from: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 06:01:18
I never watched One Piece so I can't say if it's good or not. Maybe I'll google it.
I googled it. Based on the amount of pixels I can say it's OK, Although many won't recognise her. Guess that's the problem in making old school games.
Yeah, it is indeed a problem...

Quote from: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 06:01:18
Sycor look's near with that moon on his head. I guess more bosses are going to have something simmilar.
Currently...
- Xyz, Irving, Micren do not have the emblem
- Sycor, Grialdyn, Valkyrie do have the emblem
- Azehr is currently uncertain - I plan on having his true form with the emblem, at least

Quote from: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 06:01:18
For the tileset so far, so good. I expect in a few days to be posted finished. Again great work.
If by "a few days" you mean "today", then it's finished, for now at least~
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-130215130613.bmp)

Quote from: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 06:01:18
And there's noting bad playing videio games most of the time. You'll allways get new ideas from them. :)
Perhaps. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 13 February 2015, 06:01:18
School Serenity is, well schoolish. Damn it I can't special for that outfit. If it has any special abilities the first coming to mind is knowledge and maybe having more ammo for the Acidic Buble since it's a spell and more knowledge means better spells right?

I never watched One Piece so I can't say if it's good or not. Maybe I'll google it.
I googled it. Based on the amount of pixels I can say it's OK, Although many won't recognise her. Guess that's the problem in making old school games.

Sycor look's near with that moon on his head. I guess more bosses are going to have something simmilar.

For the tileset so far, so good. I expect in a few days to be posted finished. Again great work. And there's noting bad playing videio games most of the time. You'll allways get new ideas from them. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 13 February 2015, 01:15:03
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 February 2015, 10:02:42
Right. Lunaris, your post is a veritable wall of text :o
Which explains the broken quotes, actually - it's to make the posts less larger when quoted. (Nested quotes, in other words, are disabled.)
Ooh, okay.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 February 2015, 10:02:42
I just numbered the replied parts in your post, rather than quoting it individually.
Maybe. Maybe not. I don't know just yet. Though, a bonus boss would be utterly brutal in the Tower, if I were to add one. Will I add one? Perhaps. Perhaps not. All I know is... if it is going to have one, it will possibly be an NPC that you have encountered in the past. :P
Sycor? :3

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 February 2015, 10:02:42
While I was considering making each outfit a decorative thing, perhaps having them grant useful abilities could be helpful.
That's be interesting :o

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 February 2015, 10:02:42
I'll get to work immediately and post it here as soon as possible. (And at the Cave Story forums as a status update, probably.)
Cool~

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 13 February 2015, 00:14:56
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-130215000416-702407.png)
Serenity wearing some kind of school uniform. Not exactly sure what kind of school uniform that actually is, as Yes Town's school uniform is much different.
School uniforms? Noooo D:

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 13 February 2015, 00:14:56
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-130215000416-731148.png)
Serenity cosplaying as Kalifa from One Piece. I found it ridiculously hard to sprite the glasses, strangely. So, I left them out. (Besides, Serenity can see perfectly well without glasses, and if she were to wear glasses she'd risk ruining her eyesight.) This outfit will definitely be hidden in the Top Floor area, and can only be obtained after you can reach the Master's Room - sometime before you battle Shinica and Luna, though.
Wait, so fishnets are actually going to make an appearance of sort? :o

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 13 February 2015, 00:14:56
And yes, Sycor has the castle emblem (a moon).
The castle emblem is a moon. It was always a moon. IT WILL ALWAYS BE A MOON!

... which is actually meaningful considering the master is technically a lunatic. :o
Can I ask what you mean?

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 13 February 2015, 00:14:56
Here's draft #1 of the Sunset version of the Tower area.
Draft #2 will be coming soon! I hope.
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215111054.png)
Looks okay. :)

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 13 February 2015, 00:14:56
Draft #2:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-130215001845.bmp)
Looks better than okay. :))



Say, you wanted to figure out what tileset you could use for the Top Floor, right? Why not the original Cave Story's Sacred Grounds tileset?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 13 February 2015, 00:14:56
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-130215000416-702407.png)
Serenity wearing some kind of school uniform. Not exactly sure what kind of school uniform that actually is, as Yes Town's school uniform is much different.

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-130215000416-731148.png)
Serenity cosplaying as Kalifa from One Piece. I found it ridiculously hard to sprite the glasses, strangely. So, I left them out. (Besides, Serenity can see perfectly well without glasses, and if she were to wear glasses she'd risk ruining her eyesight.) This outfit will definitely be hidden in the Top Floor area, and can only be obtained after you can reach the Master's Room - sometime before you battle Shinica and Luna, though.

And yes, Sycor has the castle emblem (a moon).
The castle emblem is a moon. It was always a moon. IT WILL ALWAYS BE A MOON!

... which is actually meaningful considering the master is technically a lunatic. :o

Here's draft #1 of the Sunset version of the Tower area.
Draft #2 will be coming soon! I hope.
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215111054.png)
This marks the fourth page for those who use the 15-posts-per-page option. (Yes, that can be changed so members can have 10 posts per page or something.)
Draft #2:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-130215001845.bmp)


Not finished. Obviously. Otherwise I'd be done with it by now :P
I spent most of my time playing video games, lazily. (And figuring out what Serenity's last outfit could be - which, as of now, is the Kalifa cosplay.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 12 February 2015, 10:02:42
Quote from: Lunaris on 12 February 2015, 02:33:29
1. After all, best to fix the bugs first than to work on the new Warp Doors, right?
2. Well, at least you can give it to Shinica without having it invisibly robbed from you. :P
3. Going by that one screenshot, I'd say it looks epic!
4. Not to mention the extra stuff?
5. Aww :<
Well, at least that makes sense?
6. No wonder Dianke's a fan of it :o
7. Hm, why not focus on that area last?
8. Why not? D:
Aside from the intro, I mean.That's a bug dealt with~
9. That looks sweet :o
10. Personally, I think a sunset variation would be lovely.
11.Wow, Azehr the five-form boss. I can't wait ;D

... will Azehr appear in version 3?
12. Make a back-up of all your current progress, okay?
(Actually, always make a back-up.)
Right. Lunaris, your post is a veritable wall of text :o
Which explains the broken quotes, actually - it's to make the posts less larger when quoted. (Nested quotes, in other words, are disabled.)
I just numbered the replied parts in your post, rather than quoting it individually.
Quote from: alfasketer on 12 February 2015, 05:37:43
Azehr looks like it's going to be great. It's a late game boss so i guess his attack while similar to Balrog will be more powerfull.
Hopefully.
Just need to figure out what entities Balrog falls under, but that's not too hard. :)

Quote from: alfasketer on 12 February 2015, 05:37:43
I love games with unlockable costumes. I love them so much and I was wondering where to search for search for such.a game. :3 I just love what you did there. And Serenity as a model at the end sounds neat. I just wonder if it's possible to have every costume granting different abilities.
While I was considering making each outfit a decorative thing, perhaps having them grant useful abilities could be helpful.

Quote from: alfasketer on 12 February 2015, 05:37:43
Again as always great work Kim. Continue doing your best. :)
Thank you.
I'll do my best! :)

Quote from: alfasketer on 12 February 2015, 05:37:43
Note: also a sunset variant will bring amazement in everyone's mind qbout how detailed is the mod.
Very well then. ;D
I'll get to work immediately and post it here as soon as possible. (And at the Cave Story forums as a status update, probably.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 12 February 2015, 05:37:43
Azehr looks like it's going to be great. It's a late game boss so i guess his attack while similar to Balrog will be more powerfull.
I love games with unlockable costumes. I love them so much and I was wondering where to search for search for such.a game. :3 I just love what you did there. And Serenity as a model at the end sounds neat. I just wonder if it's possible to have every costume granting different abilities.
Again as always great work Kim. Continue doing your best. :)

Note: also a sunset variant will bring amazement in everyone's mind qbout how detailed is the mod.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 12 February 2015, 02:33:29
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
Update on progress:
- The Servant Quarters maps are (almost) all done, in terms of the tiles.
-- As of posting this, the maps have yet to be linked to. Currently there is no events in the maps at all.
Well, this should be interesting :)
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- Various rooms are now larger (a few of them having Warp Doors now). Warps affected by this are updated as well.
-- Warp Doors in other areas are not yet working, I will focus on this after I finish off more bugs
That's understandable. After all, best to fix the bugs first than to work on the new Warp Doors, right?
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- If you have Invidia after beating Grialdyn, you can give it to Shinica (who will return it to you after the boss fight with her and Luna in the Top Floor, which isn't implemented yet).
-- As of posting this, I have yet to update the cutscene in the Reservoir where it gets stolen. I don't know how it will be stolen just yet; I require more help with that. Invisibility won't help, of course; that's just plain unfair.
Well, at least you can give it to Shinica without having it invisibly robbed from you. :P
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- The Shinica cutscene in the Servant Quarters is rewritten somewhat and if you die after the cutscene played, the cutscene text is sped up somewhat (after you give her an item).
That's neat.
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- The "Level Up", "Level Down", "Empty" and "ESC/F1/F2" text look different now
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 16:49:15
- This. (From previous post, but now with a screenshot.)
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-110215164617-612196.png)
Going by that one screenshot, I'd say it looks epic!
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- Cleaned up the Ghost Dragon Sisters boss fight a bit - aside from the tiles appearing after the boss fight having changed, there should now also be no way to clip outside of the arena. In the event that somehow you can clip out somehow (be it due to a glitch or cheating), I've made certain to have the camera focus on the player anyway. (Just. In. Case.)
Ah, that's clever.
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- The signpost in Laboratory R now pauses the game. (Just be careful of the Gau'di attacking before reading it. :P )
THANK YOU
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- Crosshair being misplaced is now fixed
That's great :)
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- Blocks will now appear when you go to the save point in the starting screen from a Warp Door.
- The two (?) NPCs that walked around while spoken to will now pause the game (instead of standing still, unfortunately).
FINALLY
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- The whole Grialdyn computer thing will now read:If Grialdyn is already visible it will read:
Broken quotes for some reason, but anyway, that seems cool!
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- The Crescent Moon has been modified slightly:
-- At level 1, it has the longest range, but the weakest damage
-- At level 3, it has the shortest range, but the most damage
Not to mention the extra stuff?
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- Servant Quarters E has been properly renamed to Servant Quarters ET (as it exits to both the Entrance and the Tower, rather than both).
Aww :<
Well, at least that makes sense?
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- If you have three "unobtainable" Life Capsules, Eron Armweak will go to the appropriate cutscene instead of forcing you to talk to her again to get a bonus Life Capsule
Yay!
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
- Servant Quarters bosses will have different boss fight songs rather than Eyes of Flame
Cool :)

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 16:49:15
Actually, it's Love-Coloured Master Spark from Touhou. The ORG was made by Randolf, sometime in January? Not sure when exactly.

The Touhou version is pretty neat, too~
Love Coloured Master Spark (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6L6E7TLy10)
No wonder Dianke's a fan of it :o

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 16:49:15
As for Bloody Tears, well... it will most likely be used at the Top Floor area when that's added.
Which will take a while, as that area has no known tilesets at all. :o
Hm, why not focus on that area last?

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 16:49:15
Anyway, a little more progress between posting that and this:
- Absolutely no music plays on the starting screen until you enter the Entrance area
Why not? D:
Aside from the intro, I mean.
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 16:49:15
- The Entrance Life Pot chest should now be locked if you already have a Life Pot
That's a bug dealt with~
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 16:49:15
- Grialdyn should now disappear if you save in its room
Cool. That's one less issue!
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 11 February 2015, 16:49:15
- Computer should now switch off if Grialdyn is defeated
Sweet! :D

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 February 2015, 00:06:19
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-110215235311.bmp)

The Tower area at day. It took about an hour, but it is done, for now. I will probably update it when I need to.
That looks sweet :o

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 February 2015, 00:06:19
I might attempt a sunset version, but I don't know.
Currently Azehr (a boss) has two sprite sheets, one for night and one for day (though it looks more as though it would work for sunset).
Personally, I think a sunset variation would be lovely.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 February 2015, 00:06:19
NOTE: the following information is what has been planned and is subject to change if it is required
.
Azehr is just a resprite of Balrog, though this boss has five forms. You can save before the first form, but trying to reach the top of the Tower will trigger the boss fight (and render it impossible to reach the top until you can access the Top Floor).

The first form is rather basic, Azehr just walks around and tries to eat Serenity.
The second form has him jump around and has him fire some sort of energy blast, though not sure if he does anything else just yet.
The third form is similar to how Balrog acts in the Power Room of Grasstown in vanilla Cave Story.
The fourth form is similar to how he acts in the Labyrinth Boulder Room in vanilla Cave Story.
The fifth form is similar to that Labyrinth ghost - defeating Azehr this last time will mean he will be deceased.
Wow, Azehr the five-form boss. I can't wait ;D

... will Azehr appear in version 3?

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 12 February 2015, 02:19:36
Apparently Serenity chose to become a model after the events of Lunar Shadow. :o

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020451-632163.png)
Here we have our heroine cosplaying as Reverie from the Key visual novel Planetarian: The Reverie of a Little Planet.
(Until literally a minute or two ago I had no idea her name was Yumemi Hoshino.)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020451-651692.png)
Here, our heroine wears a Gardevoir costume. (The Gardevoir sprites are Polaris's. He deserves a medal.)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020452-691447.png)
Serenity wears a winter outfit, but accidentally hits her head. (Don't worry, she's fine.)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020452-681316.png)
This outfit most of you know - Serenity wears it during Lunar Shadow.

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020451-672498.png)
Serenity wears a formal outfit, in this picture. With a ribbon in her hair.

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020451-6648.png)
Lastly, here Serenity wears a typical Newerth witch outfit, though without a hat.

The observant will notice that, aside from the witch outfit, the winter outfit and the Gardevoir costume, her left hand is covered with a glove at all times.
And that her left eye is always shut, but it's easier to notice. :P
And that her right eye is always green (except when wearing the Gardevoir costume, strangely).

(click to show/hide)
OH
MY
GOSH

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME AND NOW I AM VERY EXCITED :)) :)) :))


...

Make a back-up of all your current progress, okay?
(Actually, always make a back-up.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 12 February 2015, 02:19:36
Apparently Serenity chose to become a model after the events of Lunar Shadow. :o

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020451-632163.png)
Here we have our heroine cosplaying as Reverie from the Key visual novel Planetarian: The Reverie of a Little Planet.
(Until literally a minute or two ago I had no idea her name was Yumemi Hoshino.)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020451-651692.png)
Here, our heroine wears a Gardevoir costume. (The Gardevoir sprites are Polaris's. He deserves a medal.)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020452-691447.png)
Serenity wears a winter outfit, but accidentally hits her head. (Don't worry, she's fine.)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020452-681316.png)
This outfit most of you know - Serenity wears it during Lunar Shadow.

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020451-672498.png)
Serenity wears a formal outfit, in this picture. With a ribbon in her hair.

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-120215020451-6648.png)
Lastly, here Serenity wears a typical Newerth witch outfit, though without a hat.

The observant will notice that, aside from the witch outfit, the winter outfit and the Gardevoir costume, her left hand is covered with a glove at all times.
And that her left eye is always shut, but it's easier to notice. :P
And that her right eye is always green (except when wearing the Gardevoir costume, strangely).

(click to show/hide)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 12 February 2015, 00:06:19
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-110215235311.bmp)

The Tower area at day. It took about an hour, but it is done, for now. I will probably update it when I need to.


I might attempt a sunset version, but I don't know.
Currently Azehr (a boss) has two sprite sheets, one for night and one for day (though it looks more as though it would work for sunset).


NOTE: the following information is what has been planned and is subject to change if it is required
.
Azehr is just a resprite of Balrog, though this boss has five forms. You can save before the first form, but trying to reach the top of the Tower will trigger the boss fight (and render it impossible to reach the top until you can access the Top Floor).

The first form is rather basic, Azehr just walks around and tries to eat Serenity.
The second form has him jump around and has him fire some sort of energy blast, though not sure if he does anything else just yet.
The third form is similar to how Balrog acts in the Power Room of Grasstown in vanilla Cave Story.
The fourth form is similar to how he acts in the Labyrinth Boulder Room in vanilla Cave Story.
The fifth form is similar to that Labyrinth ghost - defeating Azehr this last time will mean he will be deceased.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 11 February 2015, 17:16:10
Touhou music huh  :D . Neat.
Fun fact: the day i found about Touhou (searching for bullet hell shooters and found a video in YouTube) was the day Dia joined this forum. And all that
CAUTION
just made me think of coincidences. ;D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 11 February 2015, 16:49:15
Actually, it's Love-Coloured Master Spark from Touhou. The ORG was made by Randolf, sometime in January? Not sure when exactly.

The Touhou version is pretty neat, too~
Love Coloured Master Spark (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6L6E7TLy10)


As for Bloody Tears, well... it will most likely be used at the Top Floor area when that's added.
Which will take a while, as that area has no known tilesets at all. :o


Anyway, a little more progress between posting that and this:
- Absolutely no music plays on the starting screen until you enter the Entrance area
- The Entrance Life Pot chest should now be locked if you already have a Life Pot
- Grialdyn should now disappear if you save in its room
- Computer should now switch off if Grialdyn is defeated
- This. (From previous post, but now with a screenshot.)
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-110215164617-612196.png)



EDIT: would you look at that, videos are automatically embedded into posts. :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 11 February 2015, 16:07:53
Nice Progress. I wonder if the new boss music is another Castlevania song (mainly the announced Bloody Tears.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 11 February 2015, 15:33:04
Update on progress:
- The Servant Quarters maps are (almost) all done, in terms of the tiles.
-- As of posting this, the maps have yet to be linked to. Currently there is no events in the maps at all.
- Various rooms are now larger (a few of them having Warp Doors now). Warps affected by this are updated as well.
-- Warp Doors in other areas are not yet working, I will focus on this after I finish off more bugs
- If you have Invidia after beating Grialdyn, you can give it to Shinica (who will return it to you after the boss fight with her and Luna in the Top Floor, which isn't implemented yet).
-- As of posting this, I have yet to update the cutscene in the Reservoir where it gets stolen. I don't know how it will be stolen just yet; I require more help with that. Invisibility won't help, of course; that's just plain unfair.
- The Shinica cutscene in the Servant Quarters is rewritten somewhat and if you die after the cutscene played, the cutscene text is sped up somewhat (after you give her an item).
- The "Level Up", "Level Down", "Empty" and "ESC/F1/F2" text look different now
- Cleaned up the Ghost Dragon Sisters boss fight a bit - aside from the tiles appearing after the boss fight having changed, there should now also be no way to clip outside of the arena. In the event that somehow you can clip out somehow (be it due to a glitch or cheating), I've made certain to have the camera focus on the player anyway. (Just. In. Case.)
- The signpost in Laboratory R now pauses the game. (Just be careful of the Gau'di attacking before reading it. :P )
- Crosshair being misplaced is now fixed
- Blocks will now appear when you go to the save point in the starting screen from a Warp Door.
- The two (?) NPCs that walked around while spoken to will now pause the game (instead of standing still, unfortunately).
- The whole Grialdyn computer thing will now read:
Quote
Visibility can be granted to Grialdyn.
Set the moon to shine upon the dreaming
lass instead of the eternal darkness.
If Grialdyn is already visible it will read:
Quote
Invisibility can be granted to Grialdyn.
Set the moon to shine upon the eternal
darkness instead of the dreaming lass.
- The Crescent Moon has been modified slightly:
-- At level 1, it has the longest range, but the weakest damage
-- At level 3, it has the shortest range, but the most damage
- Servant Quarters E has been properly renamed to Servant Quarters ET (as it exits to both the Entrance and the Tower, rather than both).
- If you have three "unobtainable" Life Capsules, Eron Armweak will go to the appropriate cutscene instead of forcing you to talk to her again to get a bonus Life Capsule
- Servant Quarters bosses will have different boss fight songs rather than Eyes of Flame
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 11 February 2015, 01:03:41
Perhaps, but it is also a good reward, in my opinion. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 10 February 2015, 22:12:26
Wouldn't that be a bit evil?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 10 February 2015, 22:04:17
Why not have the SP room of the Servant Quarters unlocked by defeating Valkyrie EX?
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 10 February 2015, 18:48:23
Update on the version:
The starting screen is larger, as are some of the SP rooms (such as the Laboratory one).

Working on fixing bugs at the moment, as well as, in short, invoking that "Anti-Frustration Features" trope so that people can use Warp Doors in most "SP" rooms.
The following rooms will contain Warp Doors to most areas:
- Castle Entrance
- Laboratory SP
- Reservoir SP

Other rooms, well, I haven't an idea just yet; the Tower (East) area along with the Servant Quarters DR area will work differently as they don't have "SP" areas just yet.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 09 February 2015, 02:17:16
The final boss will use the AI of Fuyuhiko Date as well as Ballos. The boss fight might be in two separate maps, though.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Dianke on 08 February 2015, 17:13:26
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 04 February 2015, 18:31:18
A new room that not only references La-Mulana (the original, freeware version), but is also a key component in getting the good or best endings.
(The worst and bad endings are, well, not reliant on this room.)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-040215193658.png)

And yes, that's the Acidic Bubble spell.
I see Hell Temple and the Dimensional Corridor in there...

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 06 February 2015, 19:58:36
The 3-HP mode will be added as well (removing all Life Capsules).
Whoever uses Ballos's AI will be a nightmare.

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 06 February 2015, 21:34:16
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-060215212405-401675.png)
As of now, this is the Castle Map.

Red: save points
Orange: boss rooms
Yellow: Warp Doors
Green: Life Capsules
Turquoise: weapons
Blue: normal room
Pink: items

With the exception of blue, the colors override each other (so a room with a save point and a Warp Door will be red, whereas a room with a weapon and a boss will be orange).
That looks pretty neat. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 07 February 2015, 12:45:40
Yeah, there are reasons for that and stuff. It's not definite that the castle will not change, after all. Change is inevitable even for the castle.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 06 February 2015, 23:29:34
Fishfishfish! ;D

That map looks different than the full Castle Map you posted a while back, Kim.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 06 February 2015, 21:34:16
While I'm uploading the Beta, here's some more stuff~

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-060215212405-421427.png)
Micren in his natural habitat (of boss fights). He can be rebattled over and over again, until you beat him without taking damage. He is kind enough to ask you if you want to battle him without the blocks (which I did, since the blocks come from both directions) and due to this, it's easier to beat him unharmed.

Of course, those who go on a 3-HP run and battle Micren with the blocks enabled... I wonder who'd manage that :o


(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-060215212405-43933.png)
A flawless victory results in Critters. Somehow.




(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-060215212405-401675.png)
As of now, this is the Castle Map.

Red: save points
Orange: boss rooms
Yellow: Warp Doors
Green: Life Capsules
Turquoise: weapons
Blue: normal room
Pink: items

With the exception of blue, the colors override each other (so a room with a save point and a Warp Door will be red, whereas a room with a weapon and a boss will be orange).

The boss at the lowest-right corner of the castle is the easiest boss, in my opinion, whereas the most difficult boss would be Sycor (I had a lot of trouble against it).
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 06 February 2015, 20:32:46
Quote from: alfasketer on 06 February 2015, 20:28:30
Before midnight huh.  :o  Great.
I know...
Hopefully nothing will prevent that... about five hours for me, so I guess I now have a deadline~
One "unobtainable" Life Capsule to add, and a few more references.

Quote from: alfasketer on 06 February 2015, 20:28:30
Great to see so many bosses so far great work,
and the over and over boss sounds interesting.
Indeed. Though, if you beat the boss without taking damage, it can't be rebattled.
This might change in a future version once the reward has a purpose, though.

Quote from: alfasketer on 06 February 2015, 20:28:30
3-HP is basically CS+ hard mode. Which I won't finish ever never :D.
3 HP mode in Lunar Shadow will just remove Life Capsules entirely, provided I'm not too lazy~
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 06 February 2015, 20:28:30
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 06 February 2015, 19:58:36
Progress on Lunar Shadow version 3Beta is nearly finished.
I might be able to release it before midnight :o

The intro will be rewritten, and there are now four bosses in the Reservoir, one boss in the Tower and one boss in the Servant Quarters.

Also, one of those bosses can be battled over and over again, until a certain item is in one's inventory.

The 3-HP mode will be added as well (removing all Life Capsules). The Level 1 Boss Fights will not, however.


Before midnight huh.  :o  Great.
Great to see so many bosses so far great work,
and the over and over boss sounds interesting.
3-HP is basically CS+ hard mode. Which I won't finish ever never :D.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 06 February 2015, 19:58:36
Progress on Lunar Shadow version 3Beta is nearly finished.
I might be able to release it before midnight :o

The intro will be rewritten, and there are now four bosses in the Reservoir, one boss in the Tower and one boss in the Servant Quarters.

Also, one of those bosses can be battled over and over again, until a certain item is in one's inventory.

The 3-HP mode will be added as well (removing all Life Capsules). The Level 1 Boss Fights will not, however.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 06 February 2015, 15:03:22
Again, no problem :)

And thank you.
Progress on the reservoir: there's now five treasure chests, though one of them is empty. (And all of them are underwater.)
One contains the Air Tank, another contains the Acidic Bubble spell.
The other two... well, that's gonna be secret 'til later :P

The empty treasure chest might be related to a future puzzle, I don't know yet...
If it is, it will most likely be related to the unreachable treasure chest in the Tower D area (with that weird clock).

Also, apparently cutscenes underwater still allow swimming. Huh.
So you could essentially swim while there's a text box on-screen.
Acidic Bubble is more powerful than the Crescent Moon, but the latter can break star blocks (while the former cannot).
Also, there's a third boss in the Reservoir (while, previously, two were planned). There will be a fourth, which guards something that allows you to fire more Acidic Bubbles. :)

There's also only three Life Capsules in the Reservoir area... huh. Guess that third "unobtainable" Life Capsule will have to go to the Tower area, then. (In one of the most evil rooms in that area, at least.)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 06 February 2015, 14:13:20
OK I decided to be just a pixelated version of my avatar. its 11x21 so it should work.

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/thumb_3-060215141137.jpeg)
Again thank you for letting both of us with Lunaris to be a part of this mod. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 06 February 2015, 10:41:50
Quote from: Lunaris on 06 February 2015, 01:32:09
Well, if it's too difficult, I won't mind if you sprite her with her hair down. :)
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-060215103950-392247.png)

Quote from: alfasketer on 06 February 2015, 06:14:28
First I want to say thank you for giving us the opportunity of being in your mod. Thank you Kim.
No problem~

Quote from: alfasketer on 06 February 2015, 06:14:28
Secondly about @alfasketer I hope you don't mind if I think about it sometime. The only thing that represented me was the avatar which don't have a deep meaning or something like that. And I don't think it'll make of good statue. :D So I hope you dont mind thinking about it a little. :)
I won't mind :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 06 February 2015, 06:14:28
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 05 February 2015, 23:58:59

Almost forgot to ask :o
@Lunaris, @alfasketer - considering you're both going to be Beta Testers, I figured statues in the Servant Quarters area will work, though currently I have nothing for those...
So could you please help with statues that represent you, if possible?

Even if it's just a description or an avatar or something; TPCool has Tornado Man from Mega Man 9.
The limit for the statues would be 32×32 pixels (excluding the base, including that, it'd be 32×48).
And there will most likely be NPCs based on the statues.

First I want to say thank you for giving us the opportunity of being in your mod. Thank you Kim.

Secondly about @alfasketer I hope you don't mind if I think about it sometime. The only thing that represented me was the avatar which don't have a deep meaning or something like that. And I don't think it'll make of good statue. :D So I hope you dont mind thinking about it a little. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 06 February 2015, 01:32:09
Well, if it's too difficult, I won't mind if you sprite her with her hair down. :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 06 February 2015, 01:25:31
Hm... ponytail, huh? I could try spriting that, though it'd probably look a bit weird.
Oh well, spriting practice is better than nothing~
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 06 February 2015, 01:18:15
I'm not good at spriting, but since you're okay with a description...

Lunaris has long brown hair and green eyes, and white skin. She usually ties her hair into a ponytail, and likes gazing at the moon.
Her attire would most probably be jeans and a jacket, or something. I dunno, really.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 05 February 2015, 23:58:59
Quote from: alfasketer on 05 February 2015, 19:16:04
My god an invisible boss. Yes. ;D
Although I thought It will be WAY smaller.
Good work.
Yeah, it's invisible if flag 0990 isn't set.
And thank you. :)

Quote from: Lunaris on 05 February 2015, 22:17:54
My my, an invisible boss actually in the mod :o
I'm curious, Kim - will the cutscenes in the future mention it being beaten while it was invisible or not?
If not, that ought to be interesting, really.
It sets flag 0829 when beaten in its invisible state, and it sets flag 0827 when defeated in its visible state.
So, yeah, it might.

Quote from: Lunaris on 05 February 2015, 22:17:54
Also, there's another use for the Life Pot?
Let me guess - a certain witch who appears often will require healing for some reason or other.
You got that right.

Quote from: Lunaris on 05 February 2015, 22:17:54
EDIT: wow, this thread's actually on its second page now :o
Cool. :)


... ironically, despite stating that I'd work on the Reservoir area, all I did was finally figure out where to put the treasure chest containing an underwater-breathing item, and work on the Servant Quarters and Tower areas.
It'll be underwater, in a map of the Reservoir that has been posted on the previous page. (Without Invidia or the Crescent Moon... it's going to be difficult to obtain.)

Also, the Tower area is currently confirmed to have two Warp Doors, rather than one.
The eastern Warp Door requires shooting at a shutter in order to open it.
The eastern Tower area has Moonsong as the background music.

... now I just need to figure out what to place in one of the treasure chests in Tower D (the map with the Newerthian clock).


EDIT:
Almost forgot to ask :o
@Lunaris, @alfasketer - considering you're both going to be Beta Testers, I figured statues in the Servant Quarters area will work, though currently I have nothing for those...
So could you please help with statues that represent you, if possible?

Even if it's just a description or an avatar or something; TPCool has Tornado Man from Mega Man 9.
The limit for the statues would be 32×32 pixels (excluding the base, including that, it'd be 32×48).
And there will most likely be NPCs based on the statues.

Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 05 February 2015, 22:17:54
My my, an invisible boss actually in the mod :o
I'm curious, Kim - will the cutscenes in the future mention it being beaten while it was invisible or not?
If not, that ought to be interesting, really.

Also, there's another use for the Life Pot?
Let me guess - a certain witch who appears often will require healing for some reason or other.

EDIT: wow, this thread's actually on its second page now :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 05 February 2015, 19:16:04
My god an invisible boss. Yes. ;D
Although I thought It will be WAY smaller.
Good work.

Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 05 February 2015, 18:49:47
Two more screenshots, because why not?

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-050215184240-36705.png)(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-050215184240-38581.png)

First picture: invisible boss
Second picture: visible boss

The third screenshot in my previous boss? It's connected to the above two. ;)

After that boss fight, well, if you have the Life Pot, you might end up with a lot of info on the castle. :)

Aside from some foreshadowing (perhaps?), it will also mention events that have yet to happen (Lunar Shadow Zero).
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 05 February 2015, 13:18:13
Thanks~ :))

More screenshots of things that are:

SERVANT QUARTERS ET:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-050215131014.png)
When entered from the Entrance side, it will be blocked; the boss in this room has to be defeated before that shutter will vanish.

TOWER GSD:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-050215130826-3218.png)
There will be a boss fight in this room. However, this boss fight can only be fully triggered via rocket.

TOWER D:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-050215130826-33450.png)
That thing with the sun and moon above it? That's the Newerthian clock. Basically, all the clocks on the planet work like that, except automated, rather than the specific one (which can be interacted with, though the mechanism temporarily breaks when doing so, forcing one to leave the room and return).
When there's a moon, this makes the boss at Servant Quarters ET visible, as well as making it possible to battle the final boss, the castle's master.
When there's a sun, this makes the boss at the Tower (the master's sister) possible to battle.

RESERVOIR B:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-050215130826-34747.png)
This is just one of the Reservoir rooms~
Not sure what could go here, yet...
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 05 February 2015, 12:38:41
That looks pretty interesting, Kim :)
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 05 February 2015, 06:22:30
Nice touch seeing Xyz becoming a ghoust like creature after you beat him up.  Entrance is done. Congratulations. Progress is awesome indeed.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 05 February 2015, 00:40:45
Quote from: Lunaris on 04 February 2015, 20:44:44
... that looks kinda weird, but oh well.
There aren't any "push the wall" puzzles, are there?
Thankfully not.

Quote from: Lunaris on 04 February 2015, 20:44:44
I agree about the Warp Room names, though; those ought to be lighter so that they can be more readable.
It's pretty nice, really, to add those, rather than have people wonder, "where does this door go again?" and then finding out the hard way.
Indeed. :)

Quote from: alfasketer on 04 February 2015, 20:59:38
Really like the new room.
Thank you~
The boss Xyz has 600 total HP, whereas the most the player will have (likely) when battling it would be about 19. (I'm guessing; I tested the battle with 20 HP.)

The first form is familiar:
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-050215003346-26101.png)
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-050215003346-302270.png)
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-050215003346-311913.png)
The second one isn't.
That boss is a bit easy, considering its attacks can be shot (for XP) and doesn't go through walls (like Xyz does).

The first form has 400 HP and the second form has 200 HP.

Thus, I can safely say that I'm currently done with the Entrance area; I did something about the weirdness of Entrance LC's moving blocks and the foregrounds, and I've checked the Life Capsule maps and they fully heal the player.

I'm also nearly done with the Laboratory area's updates (namely, the entrance to the Reservoir area and its invisible floor requiring a sign).
Meaning, from tomorrow, I can most likely work on the Reservoir area, the Tower area and the Servant Quarters area. :))

PROGRESS is awesome~
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 04 February 2015, 20:59:38
Really like the new room. And i thought La-Mulana is completly different. I should check the freeware.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 04 February 2015, 20:44:44
... that looks kinda weird, but oh well.
There aren't any "push the wall" puzzles, are there?

I agree about the Warp Room names, though; those ought to be lighter so that they can be more readable.
It's pretty nice, really, to add those, rather than have people wonder, "where does this door go again?" and then finding out the hard way.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 04 February 2015, 18:31:18
Misery's End and Acidic Bubble have yet to be added, actually, so you didn't miss anything. :)


EDIT:
A new room that not only references La-Mulana (the original, freeware version), but is also a key component in getting the good or best endings.
(The worst and bad endings are, well, not reliant on this room.)

(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-040215193658.png)

And yes, that's the Acidic Bubble spell.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 04 February 2015, 18:24:10
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 04 February 2015, 17:40:51
Oh, and there might be a new, fourth weapon (Misery's End) that can be obtained in version 3; the third would be obtained in the Reservoir (Acidic Bubble) and is unable to damage star blocks at levels 1 and 2.


Fourth Weapon? Is there something I missed. I remembered only the Invidia and Crescent Moon :D
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 04 February 2015, 17:40:51
Quote from: Lunaris on 04 February 2015, 15:24:10
So basically, the two maps that lie between the Entrance and the Tower?
One; that's where another boss lies. The one that becomes visible or invisible depending on where the Lunar Soul Castle's moon shines.
The second is above that.

Quote from: Lunaris on 04 February 2015, 15:24:10
I hope you're going to test it without cheating as well...
Of course.

Quote from: Lunaris on 04 February 2015, 15:24:10
Is Micren like Ironhead, then?
And how could it possibly be harder than it already is? :o
Yeah, it's like Ironhead.
Minus those blocks, unless people want a challenge (in other words, I plan on allowing the player to choose whether or not to have the damaging blocks there).

Starting in this version, the Warp Doors in the starting point will now have their names under them.
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-040215173342.png)

That red color is probably a bit... hard to read, though; I ought to make it slightly brighter, I guess.

Oh, and there might be a new, fourth weapon (Misery's End) that can be obtained in version 3; the third would be obtained in the Reservoir (Acidic Bubble) and is unable to damage star blocks at levels 1 and 2.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: Lunaris on 04 February 2015, 15:24:10
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 04 February 2015, 13:37:12
Not to mention the protagonist can now swim whenever underwater, but she'd still drown, so I'd have to do something about that as well. :o
That's awesome. :)

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 04 February 2015, 13:37:12
An update: aside from being finished with the maps of the Reservoir, I have now to add two Servant Quarters maps and who-knows-how-many Tower maps (as two areas of the Reservoir connect to the Tower).
So basically, the two maps that lie between the Entrance and the Tower?

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 04 February 2015, 13:37:12
But first, I ought to test the areas out to make sure they work well. (I guess cheating is justified in this case, since {1} I have yet to place a treasure chest for the Air-Tank or equivalent thereof, and {2} game breaking stuff is never fun.)
I hope you're going to test it without cheating as well...

Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 04 February 2015, 13:37:12
Cheaters never prosper, though; Micren makes sure of that. Defeat Micren without damage and you get a reward~
Of course, I think I might make it easier or harder, depending on the player's choices in the cutscene where Invidia gets stolen/taken away/eaten by a frog/whatever.
Is Micren like Ironhead, then?
And how could it possibly be harder than it already is? :o
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: alfasketer on 04 February 2015, 14:29:10
Quote from: Kim Tyranto on 04 February 2015, 13:37:12
Not to mention the protagonist can now swim whenever underwater, but she'd still drown, so I'd have to do something about that as well. :o


This will be a breath of fresh air in anything Cave Story since everyone feels like a tank in the water.
Title: Re: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 04 February 2015, 13:37:12
Current progress:
Almost finished with the maps of the Reservoir; only three zero maps (of fifteen) remain.
And then I'll add a few of the Tower and Servant Quarters area.
After those are done, I'll work on the entities and the boss fights.

Not to mention the protagonist can now swim whenever underwater, but she'd still drown, so I'd have to do something about that as well. :o
An update: aside from being finished with the maps of the Reservoir, I have now to add two Servant Quarters maps and who-knows-how-many Tower maps (as two areas of the Reservoir connect to the Tower).

But first, I ought to test the areas out to make sure they work well. (I guess cheating is justified in this case, since {1} I have yet to place a treasure chest for the Air-Tank or equivalent thereof, and {2} game breaking stuff is never fun.)

Cheaters never prosper, though; Micren makes sure of that. Defeat Micren without damage and you get a reward~
Of course, I think I might make it easier or harder, depending on the player's choices in the cutscene where Invidia gets stolen/taken away/eaten by a frog/whatever.
Title: Progress and Future Versions (spoilers)
Post by: RKS on 28 January 2015, 12:01:40
PROGRESS:
What's a mod without it? :P
I'll post a map of its progress.
(http://www.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/1-280115115414-02344.png)

The map was inspired by the GBA and DS Castlevania games.
Each 8×8-pixel square on that map is equal to a 21×16-tile map. A 16×16-pixel square, thus, would result in the map being about 42×32 tiles.

And I even color-coded it :)

Who knows? There might be even more colors as time goes on.
FUTURE VERSIONS:
Right, plans for the future versions will go in this little section right here.