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Title: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 05 February 2021, 10:18:35
... Lately, a decision was made to rename the "Lunar Shadow Project" to the "Xyrinfe Shadow Project", since the LSP takes place within the Xyrinfe multiverse...

There are things that have yet to be updated... this will be done from a PC, one day, if life permits it... these include the forum logo, and any instances of text containing more than 500 characters...

(Cibryll designed a lot of logos for individual works, so far that I am aware...)

This is just an announcement to let members know what the reason is for the rename...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 06 February 2021, 13:06:27
... Lately, a decision was made to rename the "Lunar Shadow Project" to the "Xyrinfe Shadow Project", since the LSP takes place within the Xyrinfe multiverse...

There are things that have yet to be updated... this will be done from a PC, one day, if life permits it... these include the forum logo, and any instances of text containing more than 500 characters...

(Cibryll designed a lot of logos for individual works, so far that I am aware...)

This is just an announcement to let members know what the reason is for the rename...
Now that I think about it, will the Lunar Shadow Project Wiki be renamed as well?
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 08 February 2021, 16:34:09
...

Not so far I know...?

If a third wiki has to be made for any reason (... very unlikely...) then "Xyrinfe Shadow Project Wiki" would be its name, most likely...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 08 February 2021, 18:28:51
...

Not so far I know...?

If a third wiki has to be made for any reason (... very unlikely...) then "Xyrinfe Shadow Project Wiki" would be its name, most likely...
There's no need to create a third wiki. I can simply rename it in your stead if that's what you want.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 08 February 2021, 19:51:22
There's no need to create a third wiki.
Cibryll says the host can (and has) deleted entire wikis out of the blue... supposedly for zero reason, at that...
If that were to happen, then a third wiki would be a likely option... though how that would work is beyond me...

If the worst happens, either a third wiki would be made, or the first would be kept as up-to-date as the second wiki... possibly the better option? But every wiki host has its own issues...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 09 February 2021, 14:42:54
Cibryll says the host can (and has) deleted entire wikis out of the blue... supposedly for zero reason, at that...
If that were to happen, then a third wiki would be a likely option... though how that would work is beyond me...

If the worst happens, either a third wiki would be made, or the first would be kept as up-to-date as the second wiki... possibly the better option? But every wiki host has its own issues...
I suppose we could repurpose the first wikia if push comes to shove. Then again, the second wiki (The Wikia) ought to counted as the main one simply because it's far more up to date.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 09 February 2021, 14:53:23
Currently working on the first wiki...

Can log in there, but not the main wiki...

Thinking the first wiki can currently be for things not yet in released works, but that would be old news (by mere hours)...

Doing what I can, messing up... live, learn...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 09 February 2021, 15:37:44
Currently working on the first wiki...

Can log in there, but not the main wiki...

Thinking the first wiki can currently be for things not yet in released works, but that would be old news (by mere hours)...

Doing what I can, messing up... live, learn...
So you can access the EditThis wiki and not the Wikia wiki, and I can't access the EditThis wiki but can still access the Wikia wiki? Hmm, very interesting.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 09 February 2021, 16:26:52
...?

Is this from the Wikia's link, the link in the LSP Wiki's first post, or the shortcut I have recently added...?

Technically, accessing Wikia is possible... but adding a "googleweblight" thing to link necessary to read... and as I understand, browser does not support CAPTCHA, so no logging in there...

We need flower dragons...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 09 February 2021, 16:42:53
...?

Is this from the Wikia's link, the link in the LSP Wiki's first post, or the shortcut I have recently added...?

Technically, accessing Wikia is possible... but adding a "googleweblight" thing to link necessary to read... and as I understand, browser does not support CAPTCHA, so no logging in there...

We need flower dragons...
Actually it turned out that the link I had in the Lunar Shadow Wiki was outdated. The one you've put on the forums is accessible so I've updated the main wiki's page with it. And yes, we do need Flower Dragons. We really do.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 09 February 2021, 17:32:42
Then I shall start its page there soon...

:3, right...?
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 09 February 2021, 19:03:25
Then I shall start its page there soon...

:3, right...?
I suppose. It's your wiki so do as you please.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 09 February 2021, 19:37:42
Then... I shall practice there until one day, when I can contribute to the main wiki... and overflow it with information straight from the mods... AND allow my kid sister to rule the world...!

... I am not good with evil laughs, so I will not bother with one...

... And one of the EditThis talk pages mentioned issues with not being able to upload images, I see... hope that changed...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 09 February 2021, 21:35:44
Then... I shall practice there until one day, when I can contribute to the main wiki... and overflow it with information straight from the mods... AND allow my kid sister to rule the world...!

... I am not good with evil laughs, so I will not bother with one...

... And one of the EditThis talk pages mentioned issues with not being able to upload images, I see... hope that changed...
Well as the saying goes, practice does make perfect. Also may Mia try and rule the world with her flowers, as the Knight of Bloom Seymour I'll have to see if her Flower Dragons are strong enough.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 09 February 2021, 21:40:41
...

Gasmasks will be required if they use sleeping gas... why Cibryll made them capable of such, only she knows... but it did aid with answering why Valkyrie Zylle Horton was poisoned... corrupted flower dragon sleeping gas is slightly toxic...

...

Perhaps the "LSP" can refer to the works where the Lunar Shadow entity is a threat (LSZ, LS, LSX, and the year Yes Town is annihilated by Cibryll's ideas Aidan)...

Sort of like a story arc...?
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 09 February 2021, 22:15:44
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Gasmasks will be required if they use sleeping gas... why Cibryll made them capable of such, only she knows... but it did aid with answering why Valkyrie Zylle Horton was poisoned... corrupted flower dragon sleeping gas is slightly toxic...

...

Perhaps the "LSP" can refer to the works where the Lunar Shadow entity is a threat (LSZ, LS, LSX, and the year Yes Town is annihilated by Cibryll's ideas Aidan)...

Sort of like a story arc...?
I'd be down for that, though it wouldn't surprise me if you and Cibryll already planned the whole story arc out. From what I can tell, Lunar Shadow 0, Lunar Shadow and Lunar Shadow X all have Aidan Flamberge as the main antagonist, which is already one story arc. Selenic Shadow is non-canon (and I did theorize that the main character and all the NPCs are all dead due to one of the areas resembling Myst Zone) and Apocalyptic Shadow seems to be the last chronologically though I'm not sure if that's correct.

That's not even accounting for Lunar Shadow Memories or the Lunar Shadow Reverse concepts.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 09 February 2021, 22:37:12
Umbrageous Light comes after Apocalyptic Shadow...

Then, there are planned works such as Lunar Shadow ONE and Lunar Shadow: Seas of Tirahnys... all Cibryll's doing...

...

May need to make full list of works, planned by Cibryll and such, eventually...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 09 February 2021, 22:58:20
Umbrageous Light comes after Apocalyptic Shadow...

Then, there are planned works such as Lunar Shadow ONE and Lunar Shadow: Seas of Tirahnys... all Cibryll's doing...

...

May need to make full list of works, planned by Cibryll and such, eventually...
Ah, forgot about that one. Right, so that means that Apocalyptic Shadow begins a new story arc with Umbrageous Light coming afterwards.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 10 February 2021, 07:24:28
Apocalyptic Towers incident, own arc...

Elemental Rebellion incident, own arc...

Dataverse arc begins with UL... because the Dataverse... is where the Elemental Princess of the element of Data (Savannah Nokorikaze) can be found in the year Ilina goes blind due to her Blocked Taint...

Solar Shadow arc in different timeline... and AuroraDash is in charge there...

Numerous more arcs on PC, in file, but how to read when PC does not switch on...?
This would include the artificial (even by Valkyrie standards) van Eyck twins, one of whom dies...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 10 February 2021, 15:02:21
Apocalyptic Towers incident, own arc...

Elemental Rebellion incident, own arc...

Dataverse arc begins with UL... because the Dataverse... is where the Elemental Princess of the element of Data (Savannah Nokorikaze) can be found in the year Ilina goes blind due to her Blocked Taint...

Solar Shadow arc in different timeline... and AuroraDash is in charge there...

Numerous more arcs on PC, in file, but how to read when PC does not switch on...?
This would include the artificial (even by Valkyrie standards) van Eyck twins, one of whom dies...
So many story arcs. Solar Shadow takes place in an alternate timeline as already established (though Solar Shadow 4 is an alternate timeline in itself). And my own mod projects have 2 story arcs (and 3 different names) and take place in the Dragon Riders universe.  Gun is the second game in that timeline with Parallel Phantasm being the first.

That said, those story arcs do seem interesting. I wonder which ones will actually make it into the final game.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 10 February 2021, 15:44:26
Time will tell, though... AS makes references to the LS Arc...

Statues of the LSX girls... LSZ characters, LS characters... and, of course... statues of characters who have never even appeared, not even in Selenic Shadow...

...... Flower dragon... :3
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 10 February 2021, 19:34:46
Time will tell, though... AS makes references to the LS Arc...

Statues of the LSX girls... LSZ characters, LS characters... and, of course... statues of characters who have never even appeared, not even in Selenic Shadow...

...... Flower dragon... :3
That's no surprise considering it's a sequel of sorts. And yes I've heard of the statues.
...
..
Flower dragon... :3
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 10 February 2021, 21:22:35
Bloom on, little flower dragon
No threat from that wagon
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 11 February 2021, 14:22:40
Bloom on, little flower dragon
No threat from that wagon
Bloom on, little flower dragon
regardless if ye be flesh or polygon
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 11 February 2021, 14:45:40
Whether it rains, whether it shines
Even when you're standing in lines
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 11 February 2021, 15:51:39
Whether it rains, whether it shines
Even when you're standing in lines
Go little flower dragon, you're sublime
soon enough, it'll be your time
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 11 February 2021, 16:34:31
Spread those flower wings and fly
Take to the sky, try not to cry
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 11 February 2021, 17:06:38
Spread those flower wings and fly
Take to the sky, try not to cry
Flower dragon, flower dragon, where will you be,
in the presence of the lady named Leigh
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 11 February 2021, 17:45:05
Put to slumber those that are a threat to your kind
As you fly through the sky, see what you can find
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 11 February 2021, 18:58:16
Put to slumber those that are a threat to your kind
As you fly through the sky, see what you can find
Flower dragon, flower dragon, where will you be,
Flower dragon, flower dragon, what will you see
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 11 February 2021, 21:43:20
I can hear you breathing, I can see you coming,
Feel the sunrise burning, with fire in the sky swimming
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 12 February 2021, 11:07:29
I can hear you breathing, I can see you coming,
Feel the sunrise burning, with fire in the sky swimming
Dimming will the light around you, flower dragon.
for the darkness comes and shall be gone
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 14 February 2021, 15:11:27
Just jump on the sleeping bandwagon
Dawn will tell to the night, begone
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 14 February 2021, 15:54:31
Just jump on the sleeping bandwagon
Dawn will tell to the night, begone
It won't be long, flower dragon,
the time is nigh, come the end of night
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 14 February 2021, 18:07:53
Even an eternal night cannot be endless
Though you will never be friendless

(Malice Striker eats Cibryll... again.)
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 14 February 2021, 19:13:08
Even an eternal night cannot be endless
Though you will never be friendless

(Malice Striker eats Cibryll... again.)
Flower dragon, flower dragon,
no need to mope, always have hope
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 14 February 2021, 20:24:32
Here comes the sun, here comes the rain
Just stay still, wash away the pain
Here comes the sun, here comes the rain
Will you bloom on with the lane
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 14 February 2021, 20:48:12
Here comes the sun, here comes the rain
Just stay still, wash away the pain
Here comes the sun, here comes the rain
Will you bloom on with the lane
Let nothing stop you, flower dragon,
wash yourself in the rain,
roll around in the grass and
shake your flowerly mane
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 14 February 2021, 22:23:09
...

When Cibryll said "threads derail faster than the Flash circling the globe", she was not kidding...

Still, a fitting song for Sureya to start off with... thanks...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 15 February 2021, 13:22:05
...

When Cibryll said "threads derail faster than the Flash circling the globe", she was not kidding...

Still, a fitting song for Sureya to start off with... thanks...
Exactly they do and it's part of the fun really. Bloom and I have derailed threads several times and it was pretty fun. Also is Sureya another Apocalyptic Shadow character or will she be appearing in a different game?
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 15 February 2021, 13:37:47
Unlikely to be in AS; she will be a Routen Band member long after AS...

Her info will be set in some form of stone... IF... the PC works and her notes can be created...

The Routen Band having 32 members at some point is fun... but no more than that... those surnames get pretty ridiculous just to keep the numerical theme... :-b
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 15 February 2021, 15:05:00
Unlikely to be in AS; she will be a Routen Band member long after AS...

Her info will be set in some form of stone... IF... the PC works and her notes can be created...

The Routen Band having 32 members at some point is fun... but no more than that... those surnames get pretty ridiculous just to keep the numerical theme... :-b
So in Umbrageous Light perhaps?
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 15 February 2021, 16:12:33
UL takes place in the Dataverse (except the epilogue, revealing UL to be Lunadine Crimstaine's attempt to make a game while inebriated)...

Sureya is from Gehengard (I hope the spelling is correct, @Cibryll ), which is not featured in any XSP work currently...

I got the given name from a Turkish-translated-to-Afrikaans (maybe to English first) series... like how it sounds... "Sureya"...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 15 February 2021, 18:20:02
UL takes place in the Dataverse (except the epilogue, revealing UL to be Lunadine Crimstaine's attempt to make a game while inebriated)...

Sureya is from Gehengard (I hope the spelling is correct, @Cibryll ), which is not featured in any XSP work currently...

I got the given name from a Turkish-translated-to-Afrikaans (maybe to English first) series... like how it sounds... "Sureya"...
I'm not too hot on the idea of Umbrageous Light being a video game made by a drunken Lunadine. However if you want it to be non-canon, you could have it take place in an alternate timeline where she breaks out of the Brainwashing Machine. Or if that doesn't work, you could make it work like Selenic Shadow where it's implied to be a dying dream of hers.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 15 February 2021, 18:45:05
UL is canon because spoilers...

(click to show/hide)

... All that was Cibryll's doing... and some details may be incorrect as that is what I recall...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 19 February 2021, 21:09:41
UL is canon because spoilers...

(click to show/hide)

... All that was Cibryll's doing... and some details may be incorrect as that is what I recall...
So it's canon? That's good. And I suppose it'd be nice for Ilina to get her own game considering her role in Lunar Shadow ZER0 and Lunar Shadow.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 19 February 2021, 21:57:13
Problem: original Ilina still has no playable role... :-/

Not in canon, not in fanon, not in non-canon...

(Three different classifications for XSP works...)

Her role in LSX is to be off-screen, being Tirahnys's eighth president...

That said, there are plans for her and Selena Daria teaming up in 2015 (post-LS) to kill Mi'aro (he dies in April 2015, I think) so... she still has hope...

(A dream team... a woman with three fairies, and an Elemental Royale of Light who is also an ex-president...)
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 20 February 2021, 13:12:36
Problem: original Ilina still has no playable role... :-/

Not in canon, not in fanon, not in non-canon...

(Three different classifications for XSP works...)

Her role in LSX is to be off-screen, being Tirahnys's eighth president...

That said, there are plans for her and Selena Daria teaming up in 2015 (post-LS) to kill Mi'aro (he dies in April 2015, I think) so... she still has hope...

(A dream team... a woman with three fairies, and an Elemental Royale of Light who is also an ex-president...)
Ilina doesn't have to be canon. Perhaps if Selenic Shadow ever gets updated, it could have Ilina Horton and Shinica Horton as playable characters. If that doesn't work, perhaps the Lunar Shadow Memories series could make them playable.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 20 February 2021, 13:33:43
Ilina's existence is canon...

Selenic Shadow was just to make sure Cibryll's skills did not rust (I worked on the majority of it, but had her do things as well)...
Though now, both our skills are rusting away...

Shinica would be playable in Selenic Shadow, but since we made it all up as we went along, it is hard to say for certain...

The LSM trilogy have their own protagonists already...

Original Ilina, original Ilina... how original are you to be playable...?

(The best she currently has is being cosplayed by Kyaro in Apocalyptic Shadow... and the Umbrageous Light version of Ilina...)
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 20 February 2021, 14:02:16
Ilina's existence is canon...

Selenic Shadow was just to make sure Cibryll's skills did not rust (I worked on the majority of it, but had her do things as well)...
Though now, both our skills are rusting away...

Shinica would be playable in Selenic Shadow, but since we made it all up as we went along, it is hard to say for certain...

The LSM trilogy have their own protagonists already...

Original Ilina, original Ilina... how original are you to be playable...?

(The best she currently has is being cosplayed by Kyaro in Apocalyptic Shadow... and the Umbrageous Light version of Ilina...)
I never said her existence wasn't canon, I just said that her appearance in game didn't have to be canon. Ilina being a costume in Apocalyptic Shadow fits that description whereas Data Ilina would probably be a different character altogether depending on how UL plays out.

Also it's funny that Selenic Shadow was created to test Cibryll's modding skills because that's how Gun started out. Regarding SeSh, I figured it was a dying dream world of sorts considering Selena Daria's dialogue, Grie'dyr: Thunder resembling one of the areas in Myst Zone and several of the NPCs appearing there.

It's possible that Shinica may've been playable considering she has a full sprite sheet like Selena and Shinica but also has an alternate costume. Not sure how she would've factored into the story though considering Selena dies and Shinica's story is currently unknown.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 20 February 2021, 14:15:13
Considering Dataverse-Ilina is into girls while original Ilina is into guys (despite her first seven kisses being with one girl) it is possible...

In Selenic Shadow, Shana has an alternate form (being a Haze and all) but for Shinica... that Valkyrie's potential story is a mystery... would Shana die, to be replaced by a Valkyrie...?
Shana's tale, too, is not known...

... Potential wiki trivia, all characters in MyChar are ones whose first names start with an "S"...
(This was coincidental; I only realized this today...)
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 20 February 2021, 14:44:46
Considering Dataverse-Ilina is into girls while original Ilina is into guys (despite her first seven kisses being with one girl) it is possible...

In Selenic Shadow, Shana has an alternate form (being a Haze and all) but for Shinica... that Valkyrie's potential story is a mystery... would Shana die, to be replaced by a Valkyrie...?
Shana's tale, too, is not known...

... Potential wiki trivia, all characters in MyChar are ones whose first names start with an "S"...
(This was coincidental; I only realized this today...)
It could be possible that the Dataverse versions of the characters were "idealized" versions of them created by someone. Regarding SeSh, I meant Shana's story being unknown. I already know she has an Awakened form. As for Shinica, she's either a bonus character or she had some involvement in the story due to being a playable character.

Also added the name trivia bit to Selenic Shadow's page.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 20 February 2021, 15:20:32
Her "Awakened" form might have a different name on the Apocalyptic Shadow statue...? I know she has one or two stronger forms... but those would shatter many a game, so to speak...

As a boss, though, any Haze should really be a brutal boss... be it Shana the "Flame Haze", or Hanako the "Frost Haze"...
Shana even gets a "transformation sequence" (CNP only) in the LSZ scene with Aidan (wearing a non-gasmask mask) making his decree... that, was Cibryll's idea... though she did most of the work on LSZ, which is why Martel Aar exists and why Alexis and Shinica both appear with gasmasks at some points...

Like the Level 4 Volt Cannon seen in S.D.'s introduction, too... but to get there, Evan has to go through Gomu Forest with no weapons (only three fairies)......

So... starting a game with the "Whimsical Star" is unusual...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 20 February 2021, 16:11:04
Her "Awakened" form might have a different name on the Apocalyptic Shadow statue...? I know she has one or two stronger forms... but those would shatter many a game, so to speak...

As a boss, though, any Haze should really be a brutal boss... be it Shana the "Flame Haze", or Hanako the "Frost Haze"...
Shana even gets a "transformation sequence" (CNP only) in the LSZ scene with Aidan (wearing a non-gasmask mask) making his decree... that, was Cibryll's idea... though she did most of the work on LSZ, which is why Martel Aar exists and why Alexis and Shinica both appear with gasmasks at some points...

Like the Level 4 Volt Cannon seen in S.D.'s introduction, too... but to get there, Evan has to go through Gomu Forest with no weapons (only three fairies)......

So... starting a game with the "Whimsical Star" is unusual...
Perhaps one of the bosses in Umbrageous Light could be a Haze? Also the transformation sequence in LSZ does sound interesting if it's using <CNP. Perhaps some of the bosses will make use of <CNP manipulation?
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 20 February 2021, 16:24:47
Like Azehr...?
(Shivers.)
I think Fant˘me does a better job at that...! Fighting him on floor 5 (2 phases), floor 11 (3 phases) and floor 24 (5 to 10 phases depending on whether or not his kids live when you fight him) of the Apocalyptic Shadow Tower is fun... for me, at least...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 20 February 2021, 18:33:41
Like Azehr...?
(Shivers.)
I think Fant˘me does a better job at that...! Fighting him on floor 5 (2 phases), floor 11 (3 phases) and floor 24 (5 to 10 phases depending on whether or not his kids live when you fight him) of the Apocalyptic Shadow Tower is fun... for me, at least...
This sounds interesting. I take it that Famtome also uses Balrog's AI's?
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 20 February 2021, 19:03:28
He does, but this boss is restricted to one map (per boss battle) instead of multiple like Azehr...

Cibryll called him a "butt monkey" once... he keeps me▀ing up with his entrances... "Hussar" or "Hurrah" instead of Balrog's famous "Huzzah"...

Except on floor 24... there he is just plain ANGRY... with no usual antics...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 20 February 2021, 19:23:52
He does, but this boss is restricted to one map (per boss battle) instead of multiple like Azehr...

Cibryll called him a "butt monkey" once... he keeps me▀ing up with his entrances... "Hussar" or "Hurrah" instead of Balrog's famous "Huzzah"...

Except on floor 24... there he is just plain ANGRY... with no usual antics...
That reminds me. Considering that Balrog is an entity, that means you could have multiple Balrogs in a single map if you wanted an extra fight where Fantome has multiple phases. Then again, Apocalyptic Shadow does sound interesting so I do look forward to seeing how the Famtome fights play out.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 20 February 2021, 20:25:28
CNP manipulation is fun...

I believe one boss fight in the Red Hell is against an "Accursed" (nothing can translate its language) and it uses the Balrog AI...

... but it lands in lava, reducing its HP to 0 and being an automatic victory... it flees (with the side-effect of Rukia Kurosaki II and Kim Ethnarch tagging along; this bug, if fixed, would just cause another bug when that same Accursed saves them after Qwertyuiop dies)...

And following it after that "boss fight" (if no Life Capsules were obtained) through the ceiling is the only way to obtain the Crestfallen Infinity...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 21 February 2021, 13:33:57
CNP manipulation is fun...

I believe one boss fight in the Red Hell is against an "Accursed" (nothing can translate its language) and it uses the Balrog AI...

... but it lands in lava, reducing its HP to 0 and being an automatic victory... it flees (with the side-effect of Rukia Kurosaki II and Kim Ethnarch tagging along; this bug, if fixed, would just cause another bug when that same Accursed saves them after Qwertyuiop dies)...

And following it after that "boss fight" (if no Life Capsules were obtained) through the ceiling is the only way to obtain the Crestfallen Infinity...
That does sound amusing. Though obtaining the Crestfallen Infinity does sound frustrating if you intend to obtain all weapons, though I suppose it does give incentive to replay the game because most players probably wouldn't even be aware of that weapon's existance.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 21 February 2021, 21:06:59
Crestfallen Infinity spell only obtainable if no Life Capsules are obtained...
(Life Syringe, different story... so 14 max HP instead of 4 max HP can help, but completing Ririn's quest is needed to get the Life Syringe...)

Beating Qwertyuiop with that spell and the Lazerbear gun was a bit... too fast, but the bosses' HP (floor 30, Eminent Arena, Oblivion Zone, Red Hell) are not yet finalized or edited...

Crestfallen Cool is the "limited mana" version of Crestfallen Infinity...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 22 February 2021, 13:27:35
Crestfallen Infinity spell only obtainable if no Life Capsules are obtained...
(Life Syringe, different story... so 14 max HP instead of 4 max HP can help, but completing Ririn's quest is needed to get the Life Syringe...)

Beating Qwertyuiop with that spell and the Lazerbear gun was a bit... too fast, but the bosses' HP (floor 30, Eminent Arena, Oblivion Zone, Red Hell) are not yet finalized or edited...

Crestfallen Cool is the "limited mana" version of Crestfallen Infinity...
I'm aware of that, I was mentioning how easy it'd be to miss because most players wouldn't know about it on their first playthrough (unless they're going out of their way to find every secret in Apocalyptic Shaodw).
If beating Qwertyuiop with the Lazerbear and the Crestfallen Cool makes the final boss easy, then perhaps it's a sign that the bosses's HP needs to be raised.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 22 February 2021, 15:01:27
And help with the "major bosses" max HP being increased, a feat which requires ASM hacking... as far as I know...
Not something doable at the time...

But what if the player has neither the Crestfallen Cool/Infinity nor the Lazerbear...?
Just a Pistol, at least... an interesting (if slightly pointless in that there is no reward for doing so) challenge...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 22 February 2021, 17:01:57
And help with the "major bosses" max HP being increased, a feat which requires ASM hacking... as far as I know...
Not something doable at the time...

But what if the player has neither the Crestfallen Cool/Infinity nor the Lazerbear...?
Just a Pistol, at least... an interesting (if slightly pointless in that there is no reward for doing so) challenge...

Booster's Lab has an option that allows you to change the major bosses's HP, though from I can tell, the editor you're using doesn't seem to have that option. I suppose the true final boss would be more difficult without those weapons though I'm sure you'd have to go out of your way not to use them. 
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 22 February 2021, 17:36:20
This is correct: neither CaveEditor nor Booster's Lab (that we have) can edit the major boss stats...

... Of course, the Lazerbear is a fetch quest and the Crestfallen spells have requirements... Infinity was posted already...
Crestfallen Cool requires talking to Mona Onederville (on floor 13, after Sonia Routen leaves) to get a corrupted doll... with that, a door on floor 25 leads to the (incomplete) Corrupted Code... trials await (including enemies based on Star Blocks)...

...

Hm... a thought... is the Major Boss HP thing a Hackinator feature...?
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 23 February 2021, 13:08:07
This is correct: neither CaveEditor nor Booster's Lab (that we have) can edit the major boss stats...

... Of course, the Lazerbear is a fetch quest and the Crestfallen spells have requirements... Infinity was posted already...
Crestfallen Cool requires talking to Mona Onederville (on floor 13, after Sonia Routen leaves) to get a corrupted doll... with that, a door on floor 25 leads to the (incomplete) Corrupted Code... trials await (including enemies based on Star Blocks)...

...

Hm... a thought... is the Major Boss HP thing a Hackinator feature...?
Yes, the Boss HP can be altered in the Hackinator; it's found in the Boss Health section and alters the HP of major bosses. Come to think of it, perhaps Qwertyuiop could have special dialogue if the player obtains the Laserbear/Crestfallen Cool/Crestfallen Infinity?
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 23 February 2021, 15:01:49
An idea, that is indeed...
But as you fight Qwertyuiop's "possessing Kim Ethnarch" instead of the true form, I will figure something out...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 23 February 2021, 15:08:15
An idea, that is indeed...
But as you fight Qwertyuiop's "possessing Kim Ethnarch" instead of the true form, I will figure something out...
Oh yesh, Scarlet Kim Ethenarch. For all intents and purposes, Qwertyuiop speaks through her so I figure the special dialogue thing still could happen anyway.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 24 February 2021, 21:58:03
Making her swear worse than any sailor... or any sailor-suited guardian of the universe...

Qwertyuiop could and would easily use every single swear word in the English dictionary and then some... there is no "good" in him...

He is the purest form of evil given... well, whatever passes for flesh in his case, being that his true form is a slime apparently...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 25 February 2021, 12:07:24
Making her swear worse than any sailor... or any sailor-suited guardian of the universe...

Qwertyuiop could and would easily use every single swear word in the English dictionary and then some... there is no "good" in him...

He is the purest form of evil given... well, whatever passes for flesh in his case, being that his true form is a slime apparently...
I can see it now. A joke ending Scarlet Kim Ethenarch cusses the player out and their dialogue box has nothing but black boxes occasionally interspersed with random nonsense.

A truly irredeemable individual he is.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 25 February 2021, 13:27:09
Well... unlike in LS, the swearing in AS is not censored...

Qwertyuiop is immune to redemption and atonement... officially, I was thinking that his size is 666,666 times that of real world-Jupiter... but the true final fight (not in CS-mod AS) is in his core...

The Red Hell is a Realm of its own, shared by all universes of Xyrinfe, as are six of the other Nine Hells...

Yeah, there are Nine Hells in Xyrinfe, most of which are non-indicative names... every universe gets two unique ones... the remaining seven are linked to all Xyrinfe...

Yleven Cero discovered this fact, and became a Sage Overgoddess of Serenth, I believe...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 25 February 2021, 13:59:16
Well... unlike in LS, the swearing in AS is not censored...

Qwertyuiop is immune to redemption and atonement... officially, I was thinking that his size is 666,666 times that of real world-Jupiter... but the true final fight (not in CS-mod AS) is in his core...

The Red Hell is a Realm of its own, shared by all universes of Xyrinfe, as are six of the other Nine Hells...

Yeah, there are Nine Hells in Xyrinfe, most of which are non-indicative names... every universe gets two unique ones... the remaining seven are linked to all Xyrinfe...

Yleven Cero discovered this fact, and became a Sage Overgoddess of Serenth, I believe...
The black boxes censoring out Scarlet Kim Ethenarch's profanity laden rant is part of the joke and if possible would have the censor beeps playing everytime they show up. If the true final fight with Qwertyuiop is it's core, then perhaps it could be a bullet hell style encounter?
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 25 February 2021, 14:50:20
Thirteen phases... the last one could use one attack from every past boss in AS...

Cibryll's idea being 13 phases because "thirteen's unluckier than a black cat is for a rat"...

Obviously, CS-mod cannot handle that... but I believe it CAN handle Morse code...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 25 February 2021, 20:00:32
Thirteen phases... the last one could use one attack from every past boss in AS...

Cibryll's idea being 13 phases because "thirteen's unluckier than a black cat is for a rat"...

Obviously, CS-mod cannot handle that... but I believe it CAN handle Morse code...
13 phases is hard to do, but if you can make all 13 of them varied and interesting then go for it! Also Apocalyptic Shadow being able to handle Morse Code interests me.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 25 February 2021, 21:28:54
So far I know, tiles work best :-b

Not sure if Alt+7 works as well, however...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 25 February 2021, 21:29:17
So far I know, tiles work best :-b

Not sure if Alt+7 works as well, however...
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: After on 10 March 2021, 18:30:12
You guys had a whole poetry exchange earlier in this thread.

I'm seriously impressed it lasted for as many posts as it did, wow.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 10 March 2021, 18:55:19
Underestimate the legendary power of the bond brought about by the flower dragons at your own risk... :-b
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 11 March 2021, 13:42:31
You guys had a whole poetry exchange earlier in this thread.

I'm seriously impressed it lasted for as many posts as it did, wow.
It just happened. I'm also amazed that it lasted as long as it did.
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: RKS on 11 March 2021, 14:01:47
Flower dragon, flower dragon... :3


Cibryll might be surprised, too... or try to surpass it... :-b
Title: Re: Renaming of "LSP" to "XSP"
Post by: King (2.0) on 11 March 2021, 16:02:17
Flower dragon, flower dragon... :3


Cibryll might be surprised, too... or try to surpass it... :-b
Flowe dragon, flower dragon... ~ :3

In either case I look forward to seeing Cibryll try and surpass the first Flower Dragon poem.