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Xyrinfe Shadow Project => Old Lunar Shadow Project => Lunar Shadow X => Topic started by: Caitlin on 14 October 2015, 11:20:07
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The latter.
I figured that would be the case. Then again, I'm the same person who thought Ataraxis's skin was supposed to be jet black (or that she was called Arataxis or something like that).
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So is Amariss Ritcher's gasmask supposed to be made out of metal or is it supposed to be just grey?
The latter.
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So is Amariss Ritcher's gasmask supposed to be made out of metal or is it supposed to be just grey?
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... Princess Rosalina Dubois...
Maybe we can work her into the LSX story somehow, even if as an off-screen heroine... or as an evil princess who seeks to defeat Aidan and take over the throne (at least until Aidan's next return, if the Lunar Shadow is not destroyed) and rule the world... or use the Laboratory to bring about genocide (Cibryll said the Solar Shadow Laboratory is known as Genocide City or something...) and lots of disaster...
I like the name...
Indeed, the Booster's Lab version we have is outdated, but that shall not stop us...
(What shall - and has - stopped us is a PC that does not work... :-b )
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Good to know!
She's in a Newerthan witch outfit, and I can reveal that she has the Snowflake Shuriken spell.
It's a tier 0 spell, though.
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It shows up! She's pretty cool :3
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So!
(http://lunarshadowcs.createaforum.com/gallery/lunarshadowcs/0/49-010920115627-38827.jpeg)
I hope this shows up...
That's Amariss Richters as she appears in LSX. Without a gas mask, though.
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Pretty much.It's unfortunate, too.
But it is what it is.
[shadow]Where's my sunglasses?[/shadow]
So that I can... deal with it
The download for Booster Lab's latest versions were found on Page 41 of the Booster's Lab- It's Pretty Good Now thread ([size=78%]https://www.cavestory.org/forums/threads/boosters-lab-its-pretty-good-now.3865/page-41[/size][/size][size=78%]). [/size]
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Pretty much.
It's unfortunate, too.
But it is what it is.
[shadow]Where's my sunglasses?[/shadow]
So that I can... deal with it 8)
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Er.
We have v0.4.5.0 BL.
So yours is supposed to be outdated, am I understanding this correctly? (The latest version is Booster's Lab v5.0 with the hacks folder from v5.1.0 copy-pasted over)
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Er.
We have v0.4.5.0 BL.
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ASM hacks.
Ah. So which version of Booster's Lab do you have? Mine is Booster's Lab v5.0.
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ASM hacks.
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Heh, yeah.
But they BOTH beat Sue's Workshop, gloveless hands down! :P
Booster's Lab has the Hackinator but it's all that's useful for Lunar Tierce, flag list generator aside.
Though, our hacks are outdated compared to what the newest version's got.
Ah the Hackinator (or the Hacks folder), I take it that you either mean regular hacks or ASM hacks?
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Heh, yeah.
But they BOTH beat Sue's Workshop, gloveless hands down! :P
Booster's Lab has the Hackinator but it's all that's useful for Lunar Tierce, flag list generator aside.
Though, our hacks are outdated compared to what the newest version's got.
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That doesn't sound right.
Our (broken) Booster's Lab can copy/paste scripts...
At least, we can copy stuff and paste it elsewhere with Ctrl+C/V.
Also, CaveEditor hates 127 maps, limiting us to ~100 maps. It's all we have to mod effectively with, unfortunately.
Huh I just tried copy/pasting some script from Sector Red to another map and it works even though the font is just plaintext. I'll have to try it out again in future to see if the copy-pasted text actually works. I still think it would've been better if Booster's Lab had a simply Copy/Paste function (even MS Paint has that).
Your gripes with CaveEditor are understandable (those limitations do sound annoying), so it's little wonder that Bloom thinks Booster's Lab is serperior.
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That doesn't sound right.
Our (broken) Booster's Lab can copy/paste scripts...
At least, we can copy stuff and paste it elsewhere with Ctrl+C/V.
Also, CaveEditor hates 127 maps, limiting us to ~100 maps. It's all we have to mod effectively with, unfortunately.
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Case in point: Lunar Shadow itself.
Kim did plan for the Tainted Garden, Lunar Soul, and Grim Path areas to appear there, but ran out of maps for all those.
In a Game Maker (or something) remake, that could change, though.
... We need... the Lunar Shadow Project Engine. (Else the car won't run.)
I had figured that an updated version of Lunar Shadow could merge several of the rooms together, reducing the number of maps used. (Then again Booster's Lab doesn't allow one to copy/paste scripts over which is really annoying and makes writing scripts quite tedious sometimes). However you can have up to 127 maps in freeware Cave Story so if Kim were willing to shuffle things around, she could add those 3 locations in the next update (and finish the Confusion Zone).
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Case in point: Lunar Shadow itself.
Kim did plan for the Tainted Garden, Lunar Soul, and Grim Path areas to appear there, but ran out of maps for all those.
In a Game Maker (or something) remake, that could change, though.
... We need... the Lunar Shadow Project Engine. (Else the car won't run.)
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Pretty much.
And this is why I stick to what actually happened in the mod. Concepts and ideas are often changing and what may appear in the actual mod may be completely different to what was planned originally.
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Pretty much.
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Yeah... a LOT of retcons are going to take place. :-/
Like Tranquility surviving due to her Copyform Spell, and Ataraxis having the Reincarnation Taint, though this didn't appear in the mod either.
So Kim's decided to basically make a lot of changes to LS's lore that contradicts what happened in her own mod? It'd just be easier to have them Aidan resurrect them via Lunar Shadow (entity) rather than add in a bunch of convoluted retcons (which might end up retconned themselves).
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Yeah... a LOT of retcons are going to take place. :-/
Like Tranquility surviving due to her Copyform Spell, and Ataraxis having the Reincarnation Taint, though this didn't appear in the mod either.
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I assume so.
Which is strange because the mod (Lunar Shadow) itself implies that the Dark Armour itself is what corrupts Serenity into serving Aidan, with no mention of gasmasks whatsoever. Ilina's brainwashing in LS happened because she was immune to the Dark Armour's brainwashing properties according to the mod's own lore.
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I assume so.
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One way of looking at it.
Amariss was the only Perchance Village girl with a gas mask on, and apparently, that makes it possible for Aidan to mind-control her if they're in the same room.
Kim says that ability's why the Dark Armour bad ending exists in LS.
So not because the armour itself has corruptive properties?
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One way of looking at it.
Amariss was the only Perchance Village girl with a gas mask on, and apparently, that makes it possible for Aidan to mind-control her if they're in the same room.
Kim says that ability's why the Dark Armour bad ending exists in LS.
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Ah, but unlike the Lunar Shadow, Chaos wasn't created by Aidan using something called the Pandora's Box. Also, Repose's Taint is a lot like Soma's power, haha.
In LSX, everyone outside of the barrier is frozen in time, as I understand it.
And the canon best ending for Apocalyptic Shadow is to defeat Qwertyuiop, freeing Kim Ethnarch.
So everyone in Tirahnys (as I understand it) is frozen in time while the only beings that can still move are within the castle? So that would mean Aidan has Amariss mind controlled to kill the girl who put the temporal barrier up because Aidan and his henchmen can't leave the castle without being frozen in time.
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Ah, but unlike the Lunar Shadow, Chaos wasn't created by Aidan using something called the Pandora's Box. Also, Repose's Taint is a lot like Soma's power, haha. :))
In LSX, everyone outside of the barrier is frozen in time, as I understand it.
And the canon best ending for Apocalyptic Shadow is to defeat Qwertyuiop, freeing Kim Ethnarch.
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The Lunar Shadow revived Aidan and the Lunar Soul Castle, which has different foes. Not even Tranquility shows up. Mi'aro is already dead.
The temporal barrier stops time, freezing everything outside, and stopping time from advancing inside, according to Kim's notes.
Nobody knew about the Lunar Shadow entity - only Aidan Flamberge.
Amariss is also revived after the defeat of the evil Qwertyuiop, so no, not an undead servant of anyone.Apparently, her jumping off the Eminent Arena of the Apocalyptic Moon Tower on Newerth counts as a death caused in the tower.
Ah right, so this Lunar Shadow entity (which I doubt will get a Soul form) somehow resurrects Aidan and is pretty much Chaos from Castlevania: Aria of Sorrow hence why the castle is able to return. The temporal barrier is something I'm trying to make sense of considering that you stated that one of Amariss's friends put the barrier up around the castle which would mean that time doesn't advance in the castle but anything outside of the castle (in the barrier) is frozen in time. Unless of course the temporal barrier freezes anything outside the barrier in time which means the entire planet is frozen in time during Lunar Shadow X.
Also if Amariss kills herself by jumping off the Eminent Arena (unless she intended to fake her own death) and is revived by Kim Ethenarch after Qwertyuiop, then that would mean that it's a foregone conclusion that Kim Ethnarch's possession by Ethenarch doesn't last.
Unless of course all of this is just potential concepts for the mod and that the actual Lunar Shadow X is quite different.
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Amariss is also revived after the defeat of the evil Qwertyuiop, so no, not an undead servant of anyone.
Apparently, her jumping off the Eminent Arena of the Apocalyptic Moon Tower on Newerth counts as a death caused in the tower.
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The Lunar Shadow revived Aidan and the Lunar Soul Castle, which has different foes. Not even Tranquility shows up. Mi'aro is already dead.
The temporal barrier stops time, freezing everything outside, and stopping time from advancing inside, according to Kim's notes.
Nobody knew about the Lunar Shadow entity - only Aidan Flamberge.
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Aidan was revived exactly two years after his death in 2015.
On 15 January, his castle, too, came back, eviller than ever. A nuclear power plant on the Cypher continent was destroyed by Aidan, too. By September 2017, 2,144,796 were confirmed dead from that...
And the Valkyries can't get near the castle due to a nerve agent that only affects Valkyries. But...
By Mi'aro I presume? Also if the Lunar Shadow Castle returns, does that mean all the bosses in Lunar Shadow come back or are they replaced with all new henchmen?
On 4 February 2017, seven girls from Perchance Village come, one putting a temporal barrier around the castle. So time's stopped, basically.Once the barrier fades, Shinica (in a biohazard suit) can come to help.They destroy the Lunar Shadow together, but... Amariss leaves, not able to face her friends after almost killing them. (It's why the temporal barrier faded.)Amariss takes her own life in late 2018 but canonically gets revived by a freed Kim Ethnarch.
Which would mean that time is stopped in the castle but not outside of the castle. Though if that were the case, that would mean that everything is either frozen in time or time simply stops moving forward in the castle. So in this game, the Lunar Shadow Soul is actually destroyed and the entire game happens because Serenity Horton doesn't destroy it in the True Ending (due to fighting Nemesis and Invidia).
And Amariss I take it is Kim Ethnarch's undead servant in Apocalyptic Shadow?
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On 4 February 2017, seven girls from Perchance Village come, one putting a temporal barrier around the castle. So time's stopped, basically.
Once the barrier fades, Shinica (in a biohazard suit) can come to help.
They destroy the Lunar Shadow together, but... Amariss leaves, not able to face her friends after almost killing them. (It's why the temporal barrier faded.)
Amariss takes her own life in late 2018 but canonically gets revived by a freed Kim Ethnarch.
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Aidan was revived exactly two years after his death in 2015.
On 15 January, his castle, too, came back, eviller than ever. A nuclear power plant on the Cypher continent was destroyed by Aidan, too. By September 2017, 2,144,796 were confirmed dead from that...
And the Valkyries can't get near the castle due to a nerve agent that only affects Valkyries. But...
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The protagonist is confirmed by real Kim: Amariss Richters.
She is from Perchance Village, on Tirahnys.
She also saves Newerth anonymously in 2017, though... she ends up briefly controlled by Aidan Flamberge and nearly kills six of her friends, so.
Paranoia is a real b**ch, huh?
I had thought that LSX's protagonist was Evan O Neil then I remembered that he was the protagonist of LSZ (Zero). That said, I suppose it's nice that she's the main character (and it appears that Aidan will still be alive) though I wonder what will happen to Serenity and her sisters?
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The protagonist is confirmed by real Kim: Amariss Richters.
She is from Perchance Village, on Tirahnys.
She also saves Newerth anonymously in 2017, though... she ends up briefly controlled by Aidan Flamberge and nearly kills six of her friends, so.
Paranoia is a real b**ch, huh?
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... only now do I see the reference. Rosalina. Lumas.
Super Mario games, right?
Maybe I can have those as LSX's Whimsical Star? :o
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The one that is known as Kim has almost 400 posts.
I, too, wish to see those that are known as Lunar Soul and Lunaria Dubois appear, though at that which is known as this point of time, it is likely a pipe dream until that which is known as Lunar Shadow ZERO is completed by the one that is known as its creator who is the creator of that which is known as Lunar Shadow ZERO.
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Rosalina, huh? Will we see thw lumas?
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Princess Rosalina Dubois.
(An option since just now :P )
I've been bored so I was thinking up a protagonist. I was about to post about her, but then I saw this thread and decided to just add her to the poll and change LSX's (planned) story when I start on it.
Rosalina would be the daughter of Lunaria Dubois (another new character, who mightn't appear) and Lunar Soul (the King of the Lunar Soul Castle, at least before the current Castle Master took it over). Her younger sister is named Demi, and she seeks to rebuild Lunar Soul Kingdom to its former glory (you know, being its actual princess and all).
She would be helped by Martel Aar ("aar" is an Afrikaans word meaning "vein" if I'm not mistaken), who will first appear in Lunar Shadow ZERO.
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The three "H" names are my votes.
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Dana and Morgan, because they're also names of Battle Chatelaines in Pokémon
Hyacinth, because it sounds like an embarrassing name to have :P
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Evelyn, cuz I liek thy name :3 :3 :3
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So, I was wondering about the protagonist. Recall, if you will, this testimony (posts, actually)…
Who would the protagonist be?
Serenity, most likely. If not her, then perhaps one of her children, if she has any.
No, and no. :3
Now, this leads us to the question: who is our hero or heroine. Is it a boy? Is it a girl?
While Kim was visiting (this being before her computer broke down), I asked her, but she had no answer. I'm assuming that she has no idea yet, though, so this thread might be a bit useless, if Kim actually does have an idea. I'm also assuming it's a new character, rather than a previous one (like Ignis or Shinica).
The names in the poll are either unisex (according to the Wikipedia categories they are in), or names with feminine/masculine versions.
Three options can be voted for, as well - it might do for the character's full name, after all.
Even if Kim has a protagonist in mind for Lunar Shadow X, there could always be a different role for this character, too, correct?