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Re: The Serenthan Elements
« Reply #15 on: 11 September 2019, 20:32:35 »
I was under the impression PK's weakness is reality warping...
Don't tell me THAT'S changed in the past two years!

Well, WHATEVER!
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Re: The Serenthan Elements
« Reply #16 on: 12 September 2019, 04:00:19 »
PK can control every element and has no weaknesses and also he's super humble but did he tell you about how can go to any world at any point with all his abilities and he can pew pew anyone he wishes to but he's oh so humble pew pew pew you're dead for dissing his philosophy
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Re: The Serenthan Elements
« Reply #17 on: 12 September 2019, 11:08:29 »
Philosophy, shmilosophy.




















I got nothin' but a cold.
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Re: The Serenthan Elements
« Reply #18 on: 12 September 2019, 13:59:18 »
I was under the impression PK's weakness is reality warping...
Don't tell me THAT'S changed in the past two years!

Well, WHATEVER!
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How do we derail a thread this badly?
By wearing it out.
Well, he's PK. He has to be better than everyone else's OC. Why else do you think he enjoys transformation and philosophy so much?
PK can control every element and has no weaknesses and also he's super humble but did he tell you about how can go to any world at any point with all his abilities and he can pew pew anyone he wishes to but he's oh so humble pew pew pew you're dead for dissing his philosophy
But what about PK's Undertale Genocide run? He had to get San's powers from somewhere...
Philosophy, shmilosophy.
I got nothin' but a cold.
Aw. (*hugs you*)
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Re: The Serenthan Elements
« Reply #19 on: 03 March 2020, 20:01:47 »
Looking at this list of elements, I too think 40 is a bit too much.

Cutting it down to 20, maybe 15 or even less, might work out better.

Best element?
Universe, I guess.
Everything can fit in, in the sense that they are LS universe elements. Right?
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Re: The Serenthan Elements
« Reply #20 on: 04 March 2020, 11:19:38 »
I feel like some elements are a little redundant when they could easily be repurposed as dual elements or sub-specialisations. This was also one of my gripes with the gazillions of Daraiian elements, because a lot of them could easily be fulfilled by other roles.
-Laser can be a sub of Light
-Illusion can be a mix of Light and Sound
-Plasma can be a sub of Fire or Electricity (a glaring omission)
-Thunder is a sub of Sound
-Zero and Null seem kind of the same, don't see why someone who doesn't have elemental affinity couldn't qualify for Null.
-Sun is just a Star.
-Combining Gravity, Moon and all these other celestial body things would be nice because otherwise, they seem really niche. Gravity can just be a sub of that then.
-Animal can be a sub of Bio.
-Shadow and Darkness seem kinda the same and can be subs of Light.
-Ice can be a sub of Water.
-Leaf can be a sub of Bio.

I have no idea what Mend and Anomaly are supposed to be. But look, I just shortened your list by at least 10 elements, and it becomes much more simple.

If Chaos is anything like Blah, or if Anomaly means outlier powers, then you can just merge Paper into that. There's nothing for acid either, and Poison isn't acid necessarily, so a Chemical element would be cool.

In general, you don't really need to have a lot of different elements to fill niches. You take large, overarching categories and make niches within them. This also has a positive side effect of diversity - two people with the element of Light could do completely different things with it.


Just my two rupees though.
Okay, I know that AFTRHR already gave us a great explanation on how redundant most of these elements are, but sod it, I'll do my own take regardless.
The elements: Aether, Air, Animal, *Anomaly*, *Bio*, *Chaos*, Chrono, Darkness, *Data*, *Dream*, Earth, *Emotion*, *Fey*, Fire, *Gravity*, Heart, Ice, *Illusion*, *Laser*, Leaf, Light, Mana, *Mend*, Metal, Moon, *Nether*, Null, *Paper*, *Plasma*, Poison, Psychic, *Shadow*, Sound, Space, Spirit, Star, Sun, Thunder, Ultima, and Water.

We'll only need 13 regular elements: Null, Fire, Earth, Air, Water, Metal, Poison, Psychic, Ice, Thunder, Light, Darkness and Spirit.
From there, we can merge several of the elements:
Spirit can be merged with Aether, Anomaly, Fey, Illusion, Mana, Space, Star, Sun and Ultima.
Chrono, Nether, Sound and Ultima can be merged with the Null Element.
Sun and Star cane be merged with the Fire Element.
Animal, Leaf, Paper and Mend can be merged with the Earth element.
Laser can be merged into Light, Thunder or  Psychic elements
Chaos, Shadow. Illusion, Moon and Emotion can be merged with the Dark element.
Data, Illusion, Bio can be merged with the Metal element.


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