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Poll

What would your Starter Pokémon be?

Rowlet (Grass/Flying)
3 (33.3%)
Litten (Fire)
4 (44.4%)
Popplio (Water)
2 (22.2%)

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Pokémon Sun and Moon (Major Spoiler Warnings, Bewear)
« on: 19 October 2016, 20:13:07 »
That pun. I saw Gwyneth do that at Astrum 5D's, so may as well throw it in here as well. -.-

But in any event! This thread will be the discussion thread for Pokémon Sun and Moon, as a result of data-miners and whatnot. This thread will eventually be merged with the main thread, if need be; this will likely be long after people complete the game.

Bewear of spoilers here. If you don't want to be spoiled about the plot, etc. avoid this thread for the time being, okay?





If you were looking for the main Pokémon thread, the link's here (as well as the word "Pokémon").



There's a lot of speculation about the Pokémon. But that's obvious.

(This thread is basically a spoiler zone.)


EDIT:
Right, this thread will be merged with the main Pokémon thread on the first day of next year (assuming one of us staff members have that kind of time).
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Note that I may still share information in that "things you never knew" thread.

Anyway, I'm choosing Rowlet, but that's only because it's Flying-type. In the end, when it comes to the final evolution starters (what they look like being leaked), I'd say Rowlet is tied with Litten for something I'd like. Popplio's evolution is too, uh, "dainty".

Anyway, the theme of these games is "the perfect bond between humanity and nature". The difference between this game and the Hoenn ones being the theme in this game is meant to be a lot strongly emphasized. Indeed, the reason why Gym Leaders were called this time in favour of those totem Pokémon is because they're more a "man" thing than a Pokémon one.
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I like cats a lot more than pop star seals or owls, sorry.

Some theories I've seen. (At Astrum 5D's, so I don't know what is right or wrong.)

Popplio might have better defenses.
Solgaleo and Lunala either have alternate forms, or pre-evolution forms. (The latter is highly unlikely, but not impossible.)
Ultra Beasts may possibly be obtainable. But them apparently having Shiny forms is logical (much like ?-type Arceus back in Generation IV). There are possibly 8 Ultra Beasts.
Apparently there are 100 TMs - the list remains unchanged, for the most part. Apparently, TM01 is Work Up, TM28 is Leech Life, TM76 is Fly, TM94 is Surf, TM98 is Waterfall, and TM59, TM67 and TM70 are new moves.
Apparently there are Alolan Geodude line, Alolan Diglett line and Alolan Persian. (Those are pretty much confirmed, aren't those?)
It is also theorized that Solgaleo and Lunala's shiny forms are mostly red, Sandyghast and Palossand are black in their shiny forms.
Magearna seems to have multiple forms. (If so, probably related to Soul-Heart?)
Laser Focus, Throat Chop, Aurora Veil and Psychic Terrain are new moves, apparently. Laser Focus is a guaranteed critical hit on the next turn, Throat Chop prevents use of sound-based moves for a short duration, and Aurora Veil would apparently be useful for both Special and Physical moves?
There are apparently 11 unique Z-Moves, including the revealed ones.
There is also apparently a new Poké Ball.
The last Pokémon in the new National Pokédex (… Global Pokédex?) is apparently named Marshadow, with a unique type?
There's a Ghost Trial Captain whose Totem Pokémon is Mimikyu?
It's also said that, if you capture a Pokémon while your party is full, you can send a party Pokémon to the PC instead.


Forum member Lilith linked to this picture.

If that picture is for real, then that means the final evolutions of the Starter Pokémon (Rowlet, Litten, Popplio) were revealed months before! :o



And the Z-Moves' power depends on the base move, along with the category? That's… interesting. Does the animation change, I wonder?

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I voted for Rowlett. Mainly because I had a Grass/Flying Owl starter in my own Fakemon region called Leaflet.

I feel like Nintendo spied on me and ripped me off. ;-;

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https://youtu.be/-u9aQ1Z8scM

So different than other Tainer themes, I doubt you realize what it was when it played during some trailers. ;)
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I got Pokémon Moon today!

Spoiler (hover to show)

It looks like Alolan Persian has been revealed on the front cover of some upcoming Alolan Pokédex guide that's to be released in Japan in December this year. A friend of mine literally shouted "WHAT IS UP WITH THAT HEAD"…

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somehow someone got Pokémon Sun or Pokémon Moon (or both) and started leaking all the details.

Including all the new Pokémon. (I found it while lurking the Internet. Damn, NeoGaf has ruined my evening.)



And it looks like Astrum 5D's already got some of the information via a text dump that Michelle (Ellen's sister) mentioned.

Why.

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!?!?

* drinks a lot of tea at once *



A hex upon those leakers. * has Chandelure use Hex *
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Ha ha.

I would pick Litten as my starter Pokémon. Because meow. Although, Incineroar is slower than Litten, I hear.

SPOILERS:
Spoiler (hover to show)
I posted the spoilers at Astrum 5D's as well, so if any questions exist, go ahead, ask. But know this: you may or may not like the answer.

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Evil darkness consumes the foolish
Great barriers are magical in nature
Always mangling foes never a good job

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OBJECTION~OBJECTION~OBJECTION~OBJECTION~
I'M NOT LISTENING~
I'M NOT LISTENIIIING~

… reading, but you get the idea.



When does CoroCoro usually come out? 13th?

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I think that information's leaked from examination of the full game's ROM... which seemed to have gotten leaked ahead of its released.
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I think that information's leaked from examination of the full game's ROM... which seemed to have gotten leaked ahead of its released.
That's the most likely.


I'm surprised the starters' final evolutions were leaked so far before they were officially revealed (the leak being either in June, July or August) though.

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CoroCoro day is today, then. (If they or Nintendo have officially announced stuff, I'm okay with it, but if it was from datamining, I don't want to know it just yet. I'm odd.)

(Never knew Bulbapedia is under lock-down, so to speak; this is until the release, I take it?)

Two new Ultra Beasts have been revealed, but their code-names are unknown. (Assuming things like "UB-02 Beauty" is a codename.)

There's also some kind of black Pokémon that looks wicked weird.

Oh, and Decidueye and Incineroar have Z-Moves. Sinister Arrows Strike and Hyper Dark Crusher.

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They do that all the time when a game gets released. Apparently has to do wth reliable information or something.
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(If they or Nintendo have officially announced stuff, I'm okay with it, but if it was from datamining, I don't want to know it just yet. I'm odd.)
I like cats a lot more than pop star seals or owls, sorry.

Some theories I've seen. (At Astrum 5D's, so I don't know what is right or wrong.)

Popplio might have better defenses.
Solgaleo and Lunala either have alternate forms, or pre-evolution forms. (The latter is highly unlikely, but not impossible.)
Ultra Beasts may possibly be obtainable. But them apparently having Shiny forms is logical (much like ?-type Arceus back in Generation IV). There are possibly 8 Ultra Beasts.
Apparently there are 100 TMs - the list remains unchanged, for the most part. Apparently, TM01 is Work Up, TM28 is Leech Life, TM76 is Fly, TM94 is Surf, TM98 is Waterfall, and TM59, TM67 and TM70 are new moves.
Apparently there are Alolan Geodude line, Alolan Diglett line and Alolan Persian. (Those are pretty much confirmed, aren't those?)
It is also theorized that Solgaleo and Lunala's shiny forms are mostly red, Sandyghast and Palossand are black in their shiny forms.
Magearna seems to have multiple forms. (If so, probably related to Soul-Heart?)
Laser Focus, Throat Chop, Aurora Veil and Psychic Terrain are new moves, apparently. Laser Focus is a guaranteed critical hit on the next turn, Throat Chop prevents use of sound-based moves for a short duration, and Aurora Veil would apparently be useful for both Special and Physical moves?
There are apparently 11 unique Z-Moves, including the revealed ones.
There is also apparently a new Poké Ball.
The last Pokémon in the new National Pokédex (… Global Pokédex?) is apparently named Marshadow, with a unique type?
There's a Ghost Trial Captain whose Totem Pokémon is Mimikyu?
It's also said that, if you capture a Pokémon while your party is full, you can send a party Pokémon to the PC instead.


Forum member Lilith linked to this picture.

If that picture is for real, then that means the final evolutions of the Starter Pokémon (Rowlet, Litten, Popplio) were revealed months before! :o



And the Z-Moves' power depends on the base move, along with the category? That's… interesting. Does the animation change, I wonder?
Contradiction, much? Or did things change, hmm?

If you guys have questions about what I have learned of these games, go ahead and ask me. I will post them in spoilers, of course. I don't bite… anymore. I'm quite tame now.

Two new Ultra Beasts have been revealed, but their code-names are unknown. (Assuming things like "UB-02 Beauty" is a codename.)

There's also some kind of black Pokémon that looks wicked weird.

Oh, and Decidueye and Incineroar have Z-Moves. Sinister Arrows Strike and Hyper Dark Crusher.
I know about them.
Spoiler: "Who they are" (hover to show)
SPOILERS, OBVIOUSLY. Again.

They do that all the time when a game gets released. Apparently has to do wth reliable information or something.
Given the dataminers, that makes sense.



With that said, I think the radar is shattered this generation.
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Always mangling foes never a good job

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The only thing Bloom had to comment on regarding Steenee and Tsareena was… the evolution method (level up while knowing a certain move that led to her mind going into the NSFW zone. :(

So what's the new moves, abilities, items, Pokémon and outfit options?
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