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« Reply #45 on: 19 February 2021, 21:09:41 »
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So it's canon? That's good. And I suppose it'd be nice for Ilina to get her own game considering her role in Lunar Shadow ZER0 and Lunar Shadow.
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« Reply #46 on: 19 February 2021, 21:57:13 »
Problem: original Ilina still has no playable role... :-/

Not in canon, not in fanon, not in non-canon...

(Three different classifications for XSP works...)

Her role in LSX is to be off-screen, being Tirahnys's eighth president...

That said, there are plans for her and Selena Daria teaming up in 2015 (post-LS) to kill Mi'aro (he dies in April 2015, I think) so... she still has hope...

(A dream team... a woman with three fairies, and an Elemental Royale of Light who is also an ex-president...)
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« Reply #47 on: 20 February 2021, 13:12:36 »
Problem: original Ilina still has no playable role... :-/

Not in canon, not in fanon, not in non-canon...

(Three different classifications for XSP works...)

Her role in LSX is to be off-screen, being Tirahnys's eighth president...

That said, there are plans for her and Selena Daria teaming up in 2015 (post-LS) to kill Mi'aro (he dies in April 2015, I think) so... she still has hope...

(A dream team... a woman with three fairies, and an Elemental Royale of Light who is also an ex-president...)
Ilina doesn't have to be canon. Perhaps if Selenic Shadow ever gets updated, it could have Ilina Horton and Shinica Horton as playable characters. If that doesn't work, perhaps the Lunar Shadow Memories series could make them playable.
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« Reply #48 on: 20 February 2021, 13:33:43 »
Ilina's existence is canon...

Selenic Shadow was just to make sure Cibryll's skills did not rust (I worked on the majority of it, but had her do things as well)...
Though now, both our skills are rusting away...

Shinica would be playable in Selenic Shadow, but since we made it all up as we went along, it is hard to say for certain...

The LSM trilogy have their own protagonists already...

Original Ilina, original Ilina... how original are you to be playable...?

(The best she currently has is being cosplayed by Kyaro in Apocalyptic Shadow... and the Umbrageous Light version of Ilina...)
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« Reply #49 on: 20 February 2021, 14:02:16 »
Ilina's existence is canon...

Selenic Shadow was just to make sure Cibryll's skills did not rust (I worked on the majority of it, but had her do things as well)...
Though now, both our skills are rusting away...

Shinica would be playable in Selenic Shadow, but since we made it all up as we went along, it is hard to say for certain...

The LSM trilogy have their own protagonists already...

Original Ilina, original Ilina... how original are you to be playable...?

(The best she currently has is being cosplayed by Kyaro in Apocalyptic Shadow... and the Umbrageous Light version of Ilina...)
I never said her existence wasn't canon, I just said that her appearance in game didn't have to be canon. Ilina being a costume in Apocalyptic Shadow fits that description whereas Data Ilina would probably be a different character altogether depending on how UL plays out.

Also it's funny that Selenic Shadow was created to test Cibryll's modding skills because that's how Gun started out. Regarding SeSh, I figured it was a dying dream world of sorts considering Selena Daria's dialogue, Grie'dyr: Thunder resembling one of the areas in Myst Zone and several of the NPCs appearing there.

It's possible that Shinica may've been playable considering she has a full sprite sheet like Selena and Shinica but also has an alternate costume. Not sure how she would've factored into the story though considering Selena dies and Shinica's story is currently unknown.
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« Reply #50 on: 20 February 2021, 14:15:13 »
Considering Dataverse-Ilina is into girls while original Ilina is into guys (despite her first seven kisses being with one girl) it is possible...

In Selenic Shadow, Shana has an alternate form (being a Haze and all) but for Shinica... that Valkyrie's potential story is a mystery... would Shana die, to be replaced by a Valkyrie...?
Shana's tale, too, is not known...

... Potential wiki trivia, all characters in MyChar are ones whose first names start with an "S"...
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« Reply #51 on: 20 February 2021, 14:44:46 »
Considering Dataverse-Ilina is into girls while original Ilina is into guys (despite her first seven kisses being with one girl) it is possible...

In Selenic Shadow, Shana has an alternate form (being a Haze and all) but for Shinica... that Valkyrie's potential story is a mystery... would Shana die, to be replaced by a Valkyrie...?
Shana's tale, too, is not known...

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It could be possible that the Dataverse versions of the characters were "idealized" versions of them created by someone. Regarding SeSh, I meant Shana's story being unknown. I already know she has an Awakened form. As for Shinica, she's either a bonus character or she had some involvement in the story due to being a playable character.

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« Reply #52 on: 20 February 2021, 15:20:32 »
Her "Awakened" form might have a different name on the Apocalyptic Shadow statue...? I know she has one or two stronger forms... but those would shatter many a game, so to speak...

As a boss, though, any Haze should really be a brutal boss... be it Shana the "Flame Haze", or Hanako the "Frost Haze"...
Shana even gets a "transformation sequence" (CNP only) in the LSZ scene with Aidan (wearing a non-gasmask mask) making his decree... that, was Cibryll's idea... though she did most of the work on LSZ, which is why Martel Aar exists and why Alexis and Shinica both appear with gasmasks at some points...

Like the Level 4 Volt Cannon seen in S.D.'s introduction, too... but to get there, Evan has to go through Gomu Forest with no weapons (only three fairies)......

So... starting a game with the "Whimsical Star" is unusual...
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Her "Awakened" form might have a different name on the Apocalyptic Shadow statue...? I know she has one or two stronger forms... but those would shatter many a game, so to speak...

As a boss, though, any Haze should really be a brutal boss... be it Shana the "Flame Haze", or Hanako the "Frost Haze"...
Shana even gets a "transformation sequence" (CNP only) in the LSZ scene with Aidan (wearing a non-gasmask mask) making his decree... that, was Cibryll's idea... though she did most of the work on LSZ, which is why Martel Aar exists and why Alexis and Shinica both appear with gasmasks at some points...

Like the Level 4 Volt Cannon seen in S.D.'s introduction, too... but to get there, Evan has to go through Gomu Forest with no weapons (only three fairies)......

So... starting a game with the "Whimsical Star" is unusual...
Perhaps one of the bosses in Umbrageous Light could be a Haze? Also the transformation sequence in LSZ does sound interesting if it's using <CNP. Perhaps some of the bosses will make use of <CNP manipulation?
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« Reply #54 on: 20 February 2021, 16:24:47 »
Like Azehr...?
(Shivers.)
I think Fantôme does a better job at that...! Fighting him on floor 5 (2 phases), floor 11 (3 phases) and floor 24 (5 to 10 phases depending on whether or not his kids live when you fight him) of the Apocalyptic Shadow Tower is fun... for me, at least...
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Like Azehr...?
(Shivers.)
I think Fantôme does a better job at that...! Fighting him on floor 5 (2 phases), floor 11 (3 phases) and floor 24 (5 to 10 phases depending on whether or not his kids live when you fight him) of the Apocalyptic Shadow Tower is fun... for me, at least...
This sounds interesting. I take it that Famtome also uses Balrog's AI's?
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« Reply #56 on: 20 February 2021, 19:03:28 »
He does, but this boss is restricted to one map (per boss battle) instead of multiple like Azehr...

Cibryll called him a "butt monkey" once... he keeps meßing up with his entrances... "Hussar" or "Hurrah" instead of Balrog's famous "Huzzah"...

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He does, but this boss is restricted to one map (per boss battle) instead of multiple like Azehr...

Cibryll called him a "butt monkey" once... he keeps meßing up with his entrances... "Hussar" or "Hurrah" instead of Balrog's famous "Huzzah"...

Except on floor 24... there he is just plain ANGRY... with no usual antics...
That reminds me. Considering that Balrog is an entity, that means you could have multiple Balrogs in a single map if you wanted an extra fight where Fantome has multiple phases. Then again, Apocalyptic Shadow does sound interesting so I do look forward to seeing how the Famtome fights play out.
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« Reply #58 on: 20 February 2021, 20:25:28 »
CNP manipulation is fun...

I believe one boss fight in the Red Hell is against an "Accursed" (nothing can translate its language) and it uses the Balrog AI...

... but it lands in lava, reducing its HP to 0 and being an automatic victory... it flees (with the side-effect of Rukia Kurosaki II and Kim Ethnarch tagging along; this bug, if fixed, would just cause another bug when that same Accursed saves them after Qwertyuiop dies)...

And following it after that "boss fight" (if no Life Capsules were obtained) through the ceiling is the only way to obtain the Crestfallen Infinity...
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CNP manipulation is fun...

I believe one boss fight in the Red Hell is against an "Accursed" (nothing can translate its language) and it uses the Balrog AI...

... but it lands in lava, reducing its HP to 0 and being an automatic victory... it flees (with the side-effect of Rukia Kurosaki II and Kim Ethnarch tagging along; this bug, if fixed, would just cause another bug when that same Accursed saves them after Qwertyuiop dies)...

And following it after that "boss fight" (if no Life Capsules were obtained) through the ceiling is the only way to obtain the Crestfallen Infinity...
That does sound amusing. Though obtaining the Crestfallen Infinity does sound frustrating if you intend to obtain all weapons, though I suppose it does give incentive to replay the game because most players probably wouldn't even be aware of that weapon's existance.
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